How do you design for mature markets like the devtool space? Our guest today is Simon Rohrbach, co-founder and CEO of Plain. You’ll learn about their founder journey, why you shouldn’t strive for hyper-polished websites all the time, why you shouldn’t sacrifice quality when shipping improvements and features, and more.

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• Plain
• Mintlify
• Follow Plain on Twitter and LinkedIn
• Follow Simon on Twitter and LinkedIn

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Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Carolyn Beaudoin, co-founder of Boxcar Agency. You'll learn about their Hybrid One Reader approach, tips for structuring your homepage and dedicated solution pages, how to use customer call recordings as copywriting material, and more.

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• Boxcar Agency
• Copyhackers
• Proven Ideas for A/B Testing with Sahil Patel
• JTBD for User Onboarding with Ramli John
• Uncovering Customer Insights Using JTBD with Aggelos Mouzakitis
• The Copywriting Formula: Features — Advantages — Benefits (FAB)
• Demand Side Sales – a book by Bob Moesta
• Get Boxcar Agency’s free resources for BDTP listeners
• Follow Carolyn on LinkedIn

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How do you make your design system an internal rooted practice? Our guest today is Dan Mall, entrepreneur and author of Design That Scales. You’ll learn how small practices can evolve into a design system, why adoption should tie in to your company’s mission statement, how to declare your strategic plan when establishing a design system, and more.

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• Design That Scales — Dan’s new book
• Design System University
• Episode 258: Data-driven Design Systems with Berk Çebi
• Omlet.dev
• Zeroheight, Supernova, Knapsack — modern tools for design systems
• Check out Dan’s website
• Sign up for Dan’s newsletter
• Follow Design System University on Twitter and LinkedIn
• Follow Dan on Twitter and Instagram
• Get Dan’s book

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Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Kai Davis, an SEO consultant. You'll learn how often you should update your pages, the two levers for improving your SEO, how to use heat mapping, and more.

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• Survey-based Research Projects with Becky Lawlor
• Ahrefs, Semrush – popular SEO tools
• Screaming Frog
• Hotjar – a heat mapping tool
• Follow Kai on Twitter
• Get Kai's exclusive resources for BDTP listeners

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What design interventions can help improve human connection in your software product? Our guest today is Evelyn Gosnell, behavior scientist and managing director at Irrational Labs. You’ll learn what behavioral design is, the foundational principles of human connection, how AI products are trying to establish trust and connection with their users, and more.

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• Irrational Labs — Evelyn’s company
• Episode 221: Behavioral Economics with Kristen Berman
• Negativity Bias, Similarity Bias
• The Liking Gap
• The Science of Change — Irrational Labs’ podcast show
• Check out Evelyn’s website

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Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Arpit Choudhury, founder of Databeats. You'll learn what makes a robust data foundation, how teams can work together to collect data, why less data is better, and more.

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• Databeats
• Make (formerly Integromat) — Arpit’s previous place of work
• Good Data To Growth: The GDG Model
• Measuring the ROI of Email with Claudiu Murariu
• Get Arpit’s book
• Follow Arpit on LinkedIn

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What should you consider when using map components in your product? Our guest today is Loren Baxter, lead designer for Felt Maps. You’ll learn how to start thinking in terms of maps, how to approach UX interactions and animations, what types of information can be included, and more.

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• Felt
• Google My Maps — simple tool for designing maps
• ArcGIS, QGIS — popular expert tools
• Remix — Loren’s previous place of work
• MapBox — a platform for map-based products
• OpenStreetMap — an open-source project
• Tippecanoe — tool for tiling
• Try out Felt
• Follow Loren on Twitter, LinkedIn, and Instagram

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Today we have another episode of Better Done Than Perfect. Listen in as we talk to Dan Balcauski, founder and chief pricing officer at Product Tranquility. You'll learn what department should own the pricing function, how often you should revisit pricing, why you shouldn’t A/B test your pricing, and more.

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• Product Tranquility
• Follow Dan on LinkedIn
• SaaS Scaling Secrets — Dan’s podcast

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