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Embodiment for the Rest of Us

By: Chavonne A. McClay MSW LCSW (she/her) and Jenn Jackson MPH RDN LD (she/her)
  • Summary

  • Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) are a HAES®-aligned dietitian and therapist duo who are passionate about dismantling the intersectional barriers to embodiment. In this show, they interview professionals and those with lived experience alike to learn how they are affecting radical change and how we can all make this world a safer place for those living in larger bodies and in marginalized spaces. EFTROU is currently recording season 4 with publishing starting February 2024 (every month after that on the first Thursdays of each month!) through November 2024.
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Episodes
  • Embodying Self-Care Beyond Bath Bombs, Disability Access and Community, and the Isolation of Embodiment with Imani Barbarin - EFTROU: S4, Ep4
    May 9 2024

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 4: Imani Barbarin

    Chavonne (she/her), Jenn (she/they), and Maya (she/her) interviewed Imani (she/her/hers) about her embodiment journey.

    Imani Barbarin is a disability rights and inclusion activist and speaker who uses her voice and social media platforms to create conversations engaging the disability community. Born with cerebral palsy, Imani often writes and uses her platform to speak from the perspective of a disabled Black woman. In the last few years she has created over a dozen trending hashtags that allow disabled folk the opportunity to have their perspectives heard while forcing the world to take notice. #PatientsAreNotFaking, #ThingsDisabledPeopleKnow, #AbledsAreWeird and others each provide a window into disabled life while forming community. Imani is from the Philadelphia area and holds a Masters in Global Communications from the American University of Paris, her published works include those in Forbes, Rewire, Healthline, BitchMedia and more. She runs the blog CrutchesAndSpice.com and a podcast of the same name.

    Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of medicalized racism, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, mentions of ableism, mentions of suicide, discussion of ageism

    Trigger Warnings:

    58:30: Imani discusses weight loss surgery and eating disorders

    The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-4-imani-barbarin/#captions

    A few highlights:

    4:47: Imani shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

    19:40: Imani discusses how the pandemic has affected her embodiment practices

    47:22: Imani shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges

    59:33: Imani discusses her work with social media misinformation/disinformation and disability advocacy

    1:14:11: Imanin shares how her embodiment around phobias and -isms

    1:16:51: Imani discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

    1:24:24: Imani shares where to be found and what’s next for her

    Links from this episode:

    Ableism

    American with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA)

    Autism

    Harriet Tubman Collective

    Iron Lung

    Movement for Black Lives

    Multiple Models of Disability

    PA Act 77

    The Protest Psychosis

    Runaway Slave Syndrome

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

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    1 hr and 28 mins
  • Energy is Precious, Limitations as Embodiment, and Unlearning Categorization with Niyera Hewlett - EFTROU: S4, Ep3
    Apr 4 2024

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 3: Niyera Hewlett

    Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Niyera (they/them) about their embodiment journey.

    Niyera (they/them) is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor in New Mexico and North Carolina who supervises counseling students, social work students, and licensed associates. They founded a queer and neurodivergent affirming mental health agency in Albuquerque that can be found at: youmeandtherapy.com. They work from an anti-oppressive, relational lens that helps inform how they approach supervision and therapy. They specialize in working with marginalized communities, complex trauma, dissociation, and much more. They are a trans non-binary neurodivergent human of Middle Eastern descent, raised by an immigrant mother. They reside in New Mexico with their spouse, two children, and three cats. In their spare time, they spend a lot of time imagining and writing fantasy stories as a special interest.

    Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues

    Trigger Warnings:

    53:24: Chavonne uses “crazy” in a way that is ableist.

    The captions for this episode can be found at

    A few highlights:

    3:54: Niyera shares their understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

    9:28: Niyera discusses how the pandemic affected their embodiment practices

    28:14: Niyera shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges

    31:42: Niyera discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her

    42:55: Niyera shares how their own work and supporting clients has changed and challenged their relationship with their own embodiment

    1:00:47: Niyera discusses their experience learning and unlearning while calling out what is oppressive in our systems

    1:13:50: Niyera discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

    1:21:29: Niyera shares where to be found and what’s next for them

    Links from this episode:

    Ableism

    Ample and Rooted

    Autism

    Binocular Vision Dysfunction

    Depersonalization

    Derealization

    Neurodivergence

    Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA)

    Reflective Supervision

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • Deep Dive: Identity, Sex Positive Families, and Kiddos as Embodiment Teachers with Tiana Dodson - EFTROU: S4, E2
    Mar 7 2024

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 2: Deep Dive with Tiana Dodson

    Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Tiana Dodson (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment and children.

    Content Warning: discussion of sexuality

    Trigger Warnings:

    1:45:30: Tiana uses “insane” in a way that is ableist

    The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-2-tiana-dodson/#captions

    A few highlights:

    7:06: Tiana discusses how children are embodiment teachers

    59:32: Tiana shares how capacity and capability are distinct parts of embodiment

    1:19:36: Tiana discusses creating and fostering foster relationships of liberation

    1:37:00: Tiana shares what she’s doing next

    Links from this episode:

    ADHD

    Autism

    Being You: A First Conversation about Gender

    In This Body: Finding Liberation Virtual Conference

    Liberation is a Relationship

    Love Notes For A New Year

    The Nap Ministry

    Neurodivergence

    Other People Are In The Way of Your Liberation

    RAADS-R

    Reclaiming Ugly

    Rest is Resistance

    Sex Positive Families

    We Make the Path

    Yes: Your Empowered Sexuality

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

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    1 hr and 52 mins

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