Episodes

  • Embodying Self-Care Beyond Bath Bombs, Disability Access and Community, and the Isolation of Embodiment with Imani Barbarin - EFTROU: S4, Ep4

    Embodying Self-Care Beyond Bath Bombs, Disability Access and Community, and the Isolation of Embodiment with Imani Barbarin - EFTROU: S4, Ep4
    May 9 2024

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 4: Imani Barbarin

    Chavonne (she/her), Jenn (she/they), and Maya (she/her) interviewed Imani (she/her/hers) about her embodiment journey.

    Imani Barbarin is a disability rights and inclusion activist and speaker who uses her voice and social media platforms to create conversations engaging the disability community. Born with cerebral palsy, Imani often writes and uses her platform to speak from the perspective of a disabled Black woman. In the last few years she has created over a dozen trending hashtags that allow disabled folk the opportunity to have their perspectives heard while forcing the world to take notice. #PatientsAreNotFaking, #ThingsDisabledPeopleKnow, #AbledsAreWeird and others each provide a window into disabled life while forming community. Imani is from the Philadelphia area and holds a Masters in Global Communications from the American University of Paris, her published works include those in Forbes, Rewire, Healthline, BitchMedia and more. She runs the blog CrutchesAndSpice.com and a podcast of the same name.

    Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of medicalized racism, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, mentions of ableism, mentions of suicide, discussion of ageism

    Trigger Warnings:

    58:30: Imani discusses weight loss surgery and eating disorders

    The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-4-imani-barbarin/#captions

    A few highlights:

    4:47: Imani shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

    19:40: Imani discusses how the pandemic has affected her embodiment practices

    47:22: Imani shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges

    59:33: Imani discusses her work with social media misinformation/disinformation and disability advocacy

    1:14:11: Imanin shares how her embodiment around phobias and -isms

    1:16:51: Imani discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

    1:24:24: Imani shares where to be found and what’s next for her

    Links from this episode:

    Ableism

    American with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA)

    Autism

    Harriet Tubman Collective

    Iron Lung

    Movement for Black Lives

    Multiple Models of Disability

    PA Act 77

    The Protest Psychosis

    Runaway Slave Syndrome

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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    1 hr and 28 mins
  • Energy is Precious, Limitations as Embodiment, and Unlearning Categorization with Niyera Hewlett - EFTROU: S4, Ep3

    Energy is Precious, Limitations as Embodiment, and Unlearning Categorization with Niyera Hewlett - EFTROU: S4, Ep3
    Apr 4 2024

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 3: Niyera Hewlett

    Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Niyera (they/them) about their embodiment journey.

    Niyera (they/them) is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor in New Mexico and North Carolina who supervises counseling students, social work students, and licensed associates. They founded a queer and neurodivergent affirming mental health agency in Albuquerque that can be found at: youmeandtherapy.com. They work from an anti-oppressive, relational lens that helps inform how they approach supervision and therapy. They specialize in working with marginalized communities, complex trauma, dissociation, and much more. They are a trans non-binary neurodivergent human of Middle Eastern descent, raised by an immigrant mother. They reside in New Mexico with their spouse, two children, and three cats. In their spare time, they spend a lot of time imagining and writing fantasy stories as a special interest.

    Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues

    Trigger Warnings:

    53:24: Chavonne uses “crazy” in a way that is ableist.

    The captions for this episode can be found at

    A few highlights:

    3:54: Niyera shares their understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

    9:28: Niyera discusses how the pandemic affected their embodiment practices

    28:14: Niyera shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges

    31:42: Niyera discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her

    42:55: Niyera shares how their own work and supporting clients has changed and challenged their relationship with their own embodiment

    1:00:47: Niyera discusses their experience learning and unlearning while calling out what is oppressive in our systems

    1:13:50: Niyera discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

    1:21:29: Niyera shares where to be found and what’s next for them

    Links from this episode:

    Ableism

    Ample and Rooted

    Autism

    Binocular Vision Dysfunction

    Depersonalization

    Derealization

    Neurodivergence

    Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA)

    Reflective Supervision

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • Deep Dive: Identity, Sex Positive Families, and Kiddos as Embodiment Teachers with Tiana Dodson - EFTROU: S4, E2

    Deep Dive: Identity, Sex Positive Families, and Kiddos as Embodiment Teachers with Tiana Dodson - EFTROU: S4, E2
    Mar 7 2024

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 2: Deep Dive with Tiana Dodson

    Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Tiana Dodson (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment and children.

    Content Warning: discussion of sexuality

    Trigger Warnings:

    1:45:30: Tiana uses “insane” in a way that is ableist

    The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-2-tiana-dodson/#captions

    A few highlights:

    7:06: Tiana discusses how children are embodiment teachers

    59:32: Tiana shares how capacity and capability are distinct parts of embodiment

    1:19:36: Tiana discusses creating and fostering foster relationships of liberation

    1:37:00: Tiana shares what she’s doing next

    Links from this episode:

    ADHD

    Autism

    Being You: A First Conversation about Gender

    In This Body: Finding Liberation Virtual Conference

    Liberation is a Relationship

    Love Notes For A New Year

    The Nap Ministry

    Neurodivergence

    Other People Are In The Way of Your Liberation

    RAADS-R

    Reclaiming Ugly

    Rest is Resistance

    Sex Positive Families

    We Make the Path

    Yes: Your Empowered Sexuality

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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    1 hr and 52 mins
  • Season 4 Intro Episode: Acknowledging Disability, Slowing Down, and Continuing with Intention - EFTROU: S4, Ep1

    Season 4 Intro Episode: Acknowledging Disability, Slowing Down, and Continuing with Intention - EFTROU: S4, Ep1
    Feb 1 2024

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 1: Season 4 Intro Episode

    Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) introduce Season 4!

    Content Warning: None in this episode

    Trigger Warnings: None in this episode

    The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-1-season-4-intro/#captions

    A few highlights:

    2:02: Jenn and Chavonne share their words for 2024

    20:27: Chavonne and Jenn discuss exploring disability and neurodiversity in Season 4

    32:46: Jenn and Chavonne discuss their commitment to justice and liberation related to the most marginalized humans and bodies in the world

    Links from this episode:

    How To Keep House While Drowning

    Imani Barbarin

    Morgan Harper Nichols IG Post

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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    46 mins
  • Season 3 Wrap-Up Episode - EFTROU: S3Ep13

    Season 3 Wrap-Up Episode - EFTROU: S3Ep13
    Nov 6 2023

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 13: Wrap Up Episode

    Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) wrap up Season 3!

    Content Warning: None in this episode

    Trigger Warnings: None in this episode

    The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-13-season-3-wrap-up-episode/#captions

    A few highlights:

    2:13: Jenn and Chavonne discuss how processing and practicing rest changed and challenged them in 2023

    13:14: Chavonne and Jenn discuss capability vs. capacity in their personal and professional lives

    23:39: Jenn and Chavonne discuss what they’re looking forward to next year for the podcast

    Links from this episode:

    Love Jenni K

    Mikey Mercedes

    Neurodivergence

    Whitney Trotter

    Whole Self Counseling

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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    26 mins
  • The “Rest” in the Rest of Us, Being Our Whole Human Selves with Clients, and the Laughter Between Hard Topics with Lisa Daughters and Fawn McCool - EFTROU: S3, Ep12

    The “Rest” in the Rest of Us, Being Our Whole Human Selves with Clients, and the Laughter Between Hard Topics with Lisa Daughters and Fawn McCool - EFTROU: S3, Ep12
    Oct 12 2023
    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 12: Lisa Daughters and Fawn McCool Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Lisa Daughters (she/her) and Fawn McCool (she/her) about their embodiment journeys. Lisa Daughters (she/her) is a HAES-aligned fat-positive, LGBTQIA+ allied, social justice informed Expressive Arts Therapist. She works with fat folx, LGBTQIA+ community, grief/loss, fertility struggles and pregnancy loss, relationship challenges, family dynamics - these are all near and dear to her. She has been serving clients as a professional counselor for 12 years, working with a variety of settings and concerns. She works from a person-centered approach, using humor, mindfulness, and acceptance as tools of healing and transformation. She believes in the need to broaden our view from seeing individual struggles as collective, moving towards solutions that foster interdependence and equity. She approaches counseling as a co-creation, and considers her role to be an insightful companion through the process. She trusts the inherent wholeness of each individual. I have specific training in Expressive Arts Therapy, which utilizes art-making as therapeutic. Lisa is strongly anti-diet and diet-culture. She is involved in the fat liberation movement. And it's impossible to talk about body politics without talking about racism, misogyny, and ableism. She is anti-capitalist, and anti-racist. She loves animals and spent years before becoming a therapist working with animals. She believes current social and economic structures have stripped our sense of community and our emotional experiences have been villainized and pathologized to the point that mental health is a growing challenge. She thinks it's a disservice to focus only on individual health without also addressing community. She does not believe in the paternalistic dynamic that she has seen in the mental health world, and she thinks to do my work well she has to be continually learning. * Fawn McCool (she/her pronouns), is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with a private practice based in Portland, Oregon. Her therapeutic approach is warm, nurturing, collaborative, engaged, and nerdy. She loves brain science so there MIGHT be some mention of neural plasticity or blaming of neural pathways along the way. She will shame the patriarchy, never you. As an LCSW, she has worked in a variety of settings providing skilled trauma-informed services to families, women and children. She offers clinical therapeutic services in Tigard, OR and enjoys working with a wide variety of issues including but not limited to: trauma, depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, perinatal/postpartum mood and anxiety disorders, infant loss, and fertility issues . She received her Masters of Social Work degree at California State University, Los Angeles in 2006. Her professional credentials include certification in Interpersonal Neurobiology through Portland State University and is Ample & Rooted trained. Additionally, she has had the honor of presenting at several professional conferences focused on Neonatal Intensive Care Unit experiences, neuroscience & birth trauma, and behavioral health counseling in school based health centers. She is an anti-racist, LGBTQ+ affirming, and HAES provider. Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues 40:28-53:29: Chavonne’s audio goes a bit wonky Trigger Warnings: 34:22: Fawn mentions Noom and Ozempic 49:42: Lisa uses the words “crazy” and “nutty” in a way that is ableist The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-12-lisa-daughters-and-fawn-mccool/#captions A few highlights: 7:08: Lisa and Fawn share their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges. They also discuss how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for them. 1:01:15: Fawn and Lisa discuss how supporting clients has changed and challenged their own relationships with their embodiment 1:46:47: Lisa and Fawn discuss how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 1:57:48: Fawn and Lisa share where to be found and what’s next for them Links from this episode: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents Dr. Dan Siegel Neurodivergence Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA) Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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    2 hrs and 7 mins
  • Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria, Nuances of the Pandemic, and Safe Space with Friends with Fawn McCool and Lisa Daughters - EFTROU: S3, Ep11

    Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria, Nuances of the Pandemic, and Safe Space with Friends with Fawn McCool and Lisa Daughters - EFTROU: S3, Ep11
    Sep 28 2023
    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 11: Fawn McCool and Lisa Daughters Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Fawn McCool (she/her) and Lisa Daughters (she/her) about their embodiment journeys. Fawn McCool (she/her pronouns), is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with a private practice based in Portland, Oregon. Her therapeutic approach is warm, nurturing, collaborative, engaged, and nerdy. She loves brain science so there MIGHT be some mention of neural plasticity or blaming of neural pathways along the way. She will shame the patriarchy, never you. As an LCSW, she has worked in a variety of settings providing skilled trauma-informed services to families, women and children. She offers clinical therapeutic services in Tigard, OR and enjoys working with a wide variety of issues including but not limited to: trauma, depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, perinatal/postpartum mood and anxiety disorders, infant loss, and fertility issues. She received her Masters of Social Work degree at California State University, Los Angeles in 2006. Her professional credentials include certification in Interpersonal Neurobiology through Portland State University and is Ample & Rooted trained. Additionally, she has had the honor of presenting at several professional conferences focused on Neonatal Intensive Care Unit experiences, neuroscience & birth trauma, and behavioral health counseling in school based health centers. She is an anti-racist, LGBTQ+ affirming, and HAES provider. * Lisa Daughters (she/her) is a HAES-aligned fat-positive, LGBTQIA+ allied, social justice informed Expressive Arts Therapist. She works with fat folx, LGBTQIA+ community, grief/loss, fertility struggles and pregnancy loss, relationship challenges, family dynamics - these are all near and dear to her. She has been serving clients as a professional counselor for 12 years, working with a variety of settings and concerns. She works from a person-centered approach, using humor, mindfulness, and acceptance as tools of healing and transformation. She believes in the need to broaden our view from seeing individual struggles as collective, moving towards solutions that foster interdependence and equity. She approaches counseling as a co-creation, and considers her role to be an insightful companion through the process. She trusts the inherent wholeness of each individual. I have specific training in Expressive Arts Therapy, which utilizes art-making as therapeutic. Lisa is strongly anti-diet and diet-culture. She is involved in the fat liberation movement. And it's impossible to talk about body politics without talking about racism, misogyny, and ableism. She is anti-capitalist, and anti-racist. She loves animals and spent years before becoming a therapist working with animals. She believes current social and economic structures have stripped our sense of community and our emotional experiences have been villainized and pathologized to the point that mental health is a growing challenge. She thinks it's a disservice to focus only on individual health without also addressing community. She does not believe in the paternalistic dynamic that she has seen in the mental health world, and she thinks to do my work well she has to be continually learning. Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues Trigger Warnings: 39:23: Lisa discusses getting bariatric surgery The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-11-fawn-mccool-and-lisa-daughters/#captions A few highlights: 15:05: Fawn and Lisa shares their understanding of embodiment and their own embodiment journeys 1:07:56: Fawn and Lisa discuss how the pandemic has affected their embodiment practices Links from this episode: All Cats Are On The Autism Spectrum All Dogs Have ADHD Bibliotherapy Brianne Benness Depersonalization Derealization Dr. Dan Siegel Executive Functioning The Family Experience of PDA Girls on the Run Kymber Stephenson Neurodivergence Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA) Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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    1 hr and 44 mins
  • Social Justice, Equitable Care, and Navigating a Field That is Still Unlearning with Whitney Trotter - EFTROU: S3, Ep10

    Social Justice, Equitable Care, and Navigating a Field That is Still Unlearning with Whitney Trotter - EFTROU: S3, Ep10
    Sep 14 2023

    Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 10: Whitney Trotter

    Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Whitney Trotter (she/her) about their embodiment journey.

    Whitney Trotter (she/her) is dually licensed as a Registered Dietitian, Nurse, and yoga instructor and is currently working on her doctorate degree to become a psychiatric nurse practitioner. Whitney has over ten years of experience working as a registered dietitian serving various communities such as the HIV/AIDS community and the eating disorder field. Whitney also previously worked at a Level 1 Pediatric Trauma Center as a Pediatric emergency room nurse. In addition to working as an RDN and RN, Whitney has served as a member of her county's Rape Crisis Center. Her work at the Rape Crisis Center equipped her to co-found an anti-trafficking organization Restore Corps, where she now provides medical training to the community focusing on human trafficking response.

    Whitney's career in the Eating Disorder field includes being a former Nutrition and Nursing director of a Residential, PHP, and IOP center. Whitney is also the owner/founder of Bluff City Health, a private practice that bridges the gap in the eating disorder field of equitable care and social justice. This past year Whitney created the first-ever BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference and started #BIPOCEatingDisordersAwarenessWeek

    Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues

    Trigger Warnings: None for this episode

    The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-10-whitney-trotter/#captions

    A few highlights:

    4:21: Whitney shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

    8:10: Whitney discusses how the pandemic affected her embodiment practices

    14:26: Whitney shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges

    24:46: Whitney discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her

    43:58: Whitney shares how her education and career have changed and challenged her relationship with her own embodiment

    51:18: Whitney discusses her process in co-creating the BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference

    1:10:31: Whitney shares her experience learning and unlearning while calling out what is oppressive in our systems

    1:19:27: Whitney discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

    1:26:05: Whitney shares where to be found and what’s next for her

    Links from this episode:

    Ableism

    Angela Goens

    BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference

    Body Trust

    Fatness Spectrum

    Intersectionality

    Marquisele Mercedes

    Relative Fat vs. Absolute Fat

    Tiana Dodson

    Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License

    Please follow us on social media:

    Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com

    Twitter: @embodimentus

    Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
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    1 hr and 29 mins