Dawn and Tracy are here with a quick caffeine cast. After waking up at 4:10am this week and deciding to just get out of bed, something that has been happening more and more recently, Tracy wants to talk about why, as we get older, do we wake up earlier and earlier in the mornings.

From the science that Dawn can’t remember, to Tracy just wanting to be lazy and the all important topic of afternoon naps, the ladies are covering everything you want to know about early rising, lying in and the morning after the night before.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Dawn was listening to a podcast about the science behind sleeping times, but she can’t remember all the details. Luckily Tracy is here to fill her in.
• Tracy has been experimenting with her circadian rhythm when sleeping. She explains the method to Dawn and the benefits she is seeing.
• Dawn finds that her most productive days are the ones when she gets up early, but she muses on why she is naturally waking up earlier now that she has nothing to do in the mornings.
• Dawn and Tracy discuss the idea of afternoon naps. Tracy isn’t a fan, but Dawn might be able to convince to start taking them more seriously.

BEST MOMENTS

“Why is it that when the kids finally leave home your body decides it wants to wake up early?”

“I was listening to something, I can’t remember what it was and they were talking about something, but I can’t remember the name of it. But, apparently, it helps you sleep.”

“I do find that the days I get up early are my most productive days, but, parking that, it really pisses me off.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets. But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life.

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick. Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff. Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

This week Dawn and Tracy welcome back Chloe Bisson. Chloe had a meteoric rise in her career, becoming the director of an international company by the age of 26. But once she achieved her dream, she was left feeling empty and ill. Initially visiting the doctor to try and ease her stomach pain, she was shocked when she was diagnosed with severe clinical depression. After a period of denial, Chloe decided to tackle her illness head on, which led to some incredible revelations.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Chloe talks about her initial diagnosis of depression and how she found herself in disbelief and denial, because, as she discovered, depression is not what she thought it was.
• Choe talks about how her diagnosis made her look at her life and reevaluate some of her lifestyle choices, and how this may never have happened if she had not received her diagnosis.
• Tracy muses on the idea of labels when it comes to mental health and how they might not be the most appropriate way of helping people.
• Chloe shares the story of how she met a nurse that helped her finally understand her condition, which allowed her to make positive changes and face it head on.

BEST MOMENTS

“Everybody has different ways of dealing with depression, but a top tip is ‘don’t suppress your emotions’.”

“Everyone tells you to talk about it, which is great, but I’m not sure everybody is prepared to hear it.”

“We should normalise depression instead of making it a taboo subject. Let’s let everyone know that it’s ok to not feel ok.”

EPISODE RESOURCES

Chloe’s Linkedin

Chloe’s Facebook

Chloe’s Instagram

Real Women on Instagram

Real Women Website

ABOUT THE GUEST

Chloe is a #1 bestselling author, international speaker, multi-award winning entrepreneur and host of the Inspired By Show.

At 25, Chloe overcame severe clinical depression and started her first online business. Since then Chloe's scaled multiple six figure businesses and now specialises in helping entrepreneurs to explode their brands, write their bestselling books and elevate their status so they can inspire and influence others around them.

In this episode Chloe shares her expertise on How to Write a Book.

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up of all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets. But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life.

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick. Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old-fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down-to-earth gossip with no filters or fluff. Dawn and Tracy bring heartfelt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos, and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.

This week Dawn welcomed a new grandchild into the family which sparked the idea for this episode. Dawn and Tracy are back to discuss growing old gracefully, being glamorous grannies in business, dropping the responsibilities of parenthood as grandparents, and how we’re growing wiser, not older. Is growing old the same for everyone? And how can we make sure our sons don’t repeat the mistakes many do?

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• For Dawn, growing old gracefully is all about not trying to salvage a youthful look with lip fillers, it’s about allowing yourself to look your age but still look amazing. Accept your age and make the most of it rather than trying to hold on to something that’s gone. For Tracy it’s about maturing and getting wiser, rather than growing older.
• It’s a fascinating process stepping back and watching your child become a parent, you can see where your legacy in life really is. Your children and how they raise their children is so much down to you and who you were to them.
• When you’ve been a single parent you want to make sure you raise your sons to be good parents because you know what can happen if someone isn’t there and doesn’t step up.
• Having grandchildren hasn’t made Dawn feel old, it’s made her feel proud seeing who her children have become and realising the meaning of legacy.

BEST MOMENTS

‘I refuse to let go of that status, we can retain our hotness in older age’

‘Growing old is a bit of a dirty word’

‘Nobody wants their grandmother having an OnlyFans account’

EPISODE RESOURCES

Dawn's Facebook Link: https://www.facebook.com/dawn.willock.98

Link for MAGB www.magb.com

Tracy on Facebook

Follow Tracy on Instagram

Tracy's LinkedIn

Witchproperty.com

ABOUT THE HOSTS

Dawn and Tracy are real women who are fed up with all the “noise” out there in the real world. Life isn’t simply rainbows and unicorns, it's broken relationships, hard work, hot sweats and never ending laundry baskets. But life as a real woman is also about being honest, having good gossip and speaking our truths. Whether it’s peeling yourself into your spandex for a night out, or running a business meeting barefoot because the heel has fallen off your stilettos, there is always something to laugh about in life.

Dawn is mid 50’s mid menopause straight talking business maverick. Four kids, three grandchildren, two businesses, one husband and a self proclaimed “hottie”.

Tracy is a mid 50’s awesome mum, business and property mentor. Proud of her raw, honest nature, “bonkers” sense of humour and good old fashioned northern humility.

PODCAST DESCRIPTION

The business of being a real woman juggling life, love and work for many of us is pure sweat, grit & hustle. This podcast is for those of you who are tired of the “noise” and just want real down to earth gossip with no filters or fluff. Dawn and Tracy bring heart felt humour, raw honesty, spandex, stilettos and intelligent conversion on being a real woman in today's world.