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The Long Game

By: Allie Decker David Ly Khim Alex Birkett
  • Summary

  • The Long Game shares personal and business success stories where long-term thinking triumphs. Join us for discussions about the frameworks, principles, and learnings that drive success in business.
    2024 Omniscient Digital, The Long Game
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Episodes
  • Enterprise SEO, SERP degradation, and the SEO origins of Healthline with Ethan Hays (Moz)
    Apr 3 2024
    The conversation explores the tragedy of the commons in relation to search and artificial intelligence. It discusses Google's defensive posture and the increase in large brands in search results. The conversation also delves into the history of content farms and the impact of the Panda algorithm. It highlights the challenges faced by challenger brands and the importance of balancing false positives and false negatives. The story of Healthline's SEO journey is shared, focusing on their product-led approach to differentiate themselves in the health and medical information field. In this conversation, Ethan Hays and Alex discuss the underinvestment in SEO at large companies and the challenges in getting resources for SEO initiatives. They explore the factors influencing this underinvestment, including the short-term focus on quarterly financial results and the complexity and uncertainty of SEO outcomes. Ethan emphasizes the importance of simplifying the language and articulation of SEO to senior executives, focusing on revenue, profit, and operational costs. They also discuss the need to break down technical complexity and communicate SEO in a way that is easily understandable to non-SEOs. The conversation highlights the opportunity for the SEO industry to promote simplicity and improve communication to drive greater investment and understanding of SEO.Key TakeawaysLarge companies often underinvest in SEO due to the short-term focus on quarterly financial results and the complexity and uncertainty of SEO outcomes.Simplifying the language and articulation of SEO to senior executives, focusing on revenue, profit, and operational costs, can help secure resources for SEO initiatives.Breaking down technical complexity and communicating SEO in a simple and understandable way is crucial for gaining buy-in and support from non-SEOs.The SEO industry has an opportunity to promote simplicity and improve communication to drive greater investment and understanding of SEO.Show LinksVisit Moz and STAT Search AnalyticsConnect with Ethan Hays on TwitterConnect with Alex Birkett on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterPast guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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    51 mins
  • Modern SEO, Information Gain, and Organic Revenue Attribution with Parthi Loganathan (Letterdrop)
    Mar 27 2024

    In this conversation, Parthi Loganathan, the co-founder of LetterDrop, discusses his approach to SEO and content creation. He emphasizes the importance of understanding user intent and providing unique and valuable content. Parthi also highlights the concept of information gain and its role in standing out from competitors. He discusses the evolving landscape of SEO and the need for multimedia and authenticity. Additionally, Parthi explains the difference between demand creation and demand capture in marketing strategies. The conversation covers topics such as omnichannel approach and niching down, inbound leads and approach to LinkedIn, revenue attribution and marketing metrics, brand marketing and revenue-focused marketing, trends in SEO and demand generation, and investing in marketing skills for the future.

    Key Takeaways
    Focus on user intent and provide valuable content to stand out in SEO.
    Strive for information gain by offering unique perspectives and diverse opinions.
    Embrace multimedia and authenticity in content creation.
    Differentiate between demand creation and demand capture in marketing strategies. An omnichannel approach and niching down can help businesses compete in different categories and target specific customer needs.
    LinkedIn is a valuable platform for demand generation, and building authentic relationships is important for success.
    Revenue attribution is complex, but directionally measuring what's working and driving revenue can inform marketing strategies.
    Both brand marketing and revenue-focused marketing have their place, and measuring outcomes for each can provide valuable insights.
    The majority of companies still rely on old-school SEO and could benefit from a more strategic approach.
    Investing in skills such as understanding the business, critical thinking, and adapting to change is crucial for marketers in the future.

    Show Links
    Visit Letterdrop
    Connect with Parthi Loganathan on LinkedIn
    Connect with Alex Birkett on LinkedIn and Twitter
    Connect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or Twitter
    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.
    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:
    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)
    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)
    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)
    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)
    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)
    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:
    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO
    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?
    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?
    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:
    Twitter: @beomniscient
    Linkedin: Be Omniscient
    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

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    51 mins
  • Counterintuitive CRO Advice for B2B SaaS Websites, the Decision to Sell a Business, and Mental Health for Business Executives with Sahil Patel
    Mar 20 2024

    Sahil Patel, CEO of Spiralyze, shares his journey to becoming CEO and introduces Spiralyze, a conversion rate optimization company. Spiralyze offers a unique tech-enabled service that combines an agency component with a SaaS product. They scrape data from 34,000 websites that run A/B tests to identify proven winners, which are tests that have been validated by multiple companies. Spiralyze uses this data to design, build, and run tests for their clients, offering performance-based pricing where clients only pay if they achieve a significant lift in conversions. Sahil also addresses concerns about statistical significance and the challenges of running tests with limited traffic in the B2B SaaS space. In this conversation, Sahil Patel discusses the differences in B2B marketing and the challenges of achieving statistical significance in experiments. He emphasizes the importance of taking big swing tests and killing losing and neutral tests early. Sahil also shares insights on the perishability of learnings and the pragmatic approach to testing in the B2B SaaS world. Additionally, he provides advice on managing mental health as a CEO and finding fulfillment in work. The conversation concludes with a book recommendation: Snow Crash by Neil Stephenson.
    Key Takeaways
    Spiralyze is a conversion rate optimization company that combines an agency component with a SaaS product.
    They scrape data from 34,000 websites to identify proven winners, tests that have been validated by multiple companies.
    Spiralyze offers performance-based pricing, where clients only pay if they achieve a significant lift in conversions.
    Addressing statistical significance and limited traffic in the B2B SaaS space can be challenging but can be overcome with data-driven approaches. B2B marketing has meaningful differences compared to other types of marketing, such as lower traffic and different desired actions.
    Taking big swing tests, rather than meek tests, can lead to quicker statistical significance and more impactful results.
    In the B2B SaaS world, it is important to kill losing and neutral tests early to optimize resources and time.
    Learnings from experiments are highly perishable and specific to the test conducted, making them less valuable in the long term.
    Managing mental health as a CEO requires having a peer group, confidants, and seeking therapy when needed.
    Personalization and customization are often overrated, and companies should focus on showing relevance and solving customer problems.
    Finding fulfillment in work involves aligning your strengths with the rewards and characteristics of the environment.
    The book Snow Crash by Neil Stephenson is recommended for its engaging story and futuristic concepts.
    Show Links
    Visit Spiralyze
    Connect with Sahil Patel on LinkedIn and check his Bio
    Connect with David Khim on LinkedIn and Twitter
    Connect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or Twitter
    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.
    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:
    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)
    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)
    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)
    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)
    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)
    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:
    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO
    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?
    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?
    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:
    Twitter: @beomniscient
    Linkedin: Be Omniscient
    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

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    1 hr and 2 mins

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