Jaan Tallinn is a billionaire computer programmer and investor. He was a co-founder of Skype, and has invested in companies like DeepMind and Anthropic.

Tallinn is a leading figure in the field of existential risk, having co-founded both the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER) at the University of Cambridge, in the United Kingdom and the Future of Life Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts, in the United States.

Steve and Jaan discuss:

00:00 Introduction

00:33 Jaan Tallinn: AI Investor

02:03 Acceleration Toward AGI: Excitement and Anxiety

04:29 AI Capabilities and Future Evolution

05:53 AI Safety, Ethics, and the Call for a Moratorium

07:12 Foundation models: Scaling, Synthetic Data, and Integration

13:08 AI and Cybersecurity: Threats and Precautions

26:52 Policy goals and desired outcomes

36:27 Cultural narratives on AI and how they differ globally

39:19 Closing Thoughts and Future Directions

References:

• Jaan’s top priorities for reducing AI extinction risk: https://jaan.info/priorities/

Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.

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Steve Hsu is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SuperFocus, SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU. Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on Twitter @hsu_steve.

Glenn Luk has worked as an investment banker, private equity investor, and startup founder. He has closely analyzed aspects of the Chinese economy, including its GDP and high speed rail system.

Steve and Glenn discuss:

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (01:21) - Glenn Luk's Background: HK, Taiwan, China
• (07:59) - Evolution of Chinese Companies and Economy
• (14:58) - From Banking to Private Equity and Venture Capital
• (23:08) - Founding a Healthcare Startup and Entrepreneurial Ventures
• (26:35) - China's Development and Economic Policies
• (41:17) - Comparing US and China's Economies and Cultures
• (47:12) - Demographics and Consumer Behavior in China
• (49:09) - China's Economy: Beyond GDP
• (56:34) - High Speed Rail: huge success, or white elephant?
• (01:17:26) - Future of China's Economy

References:

• Glenn Luk on Twitter: https://twitter.com/GlennLuk
• Glenn on High Speed Rail: https://www.readwriteinvest.com/p/is-high-speed-rail-in-china-a-gray
• Munger and Ricardo: https://infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/03/charlie-munger-ricardo-and-finance.html

Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.

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Steve Hsu is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SuperFocus, SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU. Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on Twitter @hsu_steve.

Casey Handmer (PhD, Caltech, general relativity) is the founder of Terraform Industries. He is one of the most capable and ambitious geo-engineers on planet Earth!

Terraform Industries is scaling technology to produce cheap natural gas with sunlight and air. Using solar energy, they extract carbon from the air and synthesize natural gas, all at the same site.

March 2024: "Terraform completes the end to end demo, successfully producing fossil carbon free pipeline grade natural gas from sunlight and air. We also achieved green hydrogen at <$2.50/kg-H2 and DAC CO2 at <$250/T-CO2, two incredible milestones."

Links:

• Casey Handmer’s website: https://www.caseyhandmer.com/
• Terraform Industries: https://terraformindustries.com/
• Nerds on Patrol [Episode 3] - Terraform Industries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9k3dHFJPEU

Steve and Casey discuss:

0:00 Introduction

00:31 Casey's early life and background, from Australia to Caltech

07:55 The academic path and transition to tech entrepreneurship

10:40 Terraform Industries

15:21 Solar costs, efficiency, and global Impact

24:25 A world powered by Terraform methane

31:27 The entrepreneurial journey: challenges and insights

35:01 Investor dynamics and strategic decisions for Terraform

41:28 The hard Reality of manufacturing and innovation

44:11 Navigating intellectual property and strategic partnerships

45:49 The moral and technical challenges of carbon neutrality

55:48 Looking ahead: Terraform's next milestones and the solar revolution

Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.

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Steve Hsu is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SuperFocus, SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU. Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on X @hsu_steve.