In this special episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Mario Sikora are joined by Christian McClain, a songwriter and musician, for an exercise that determines someone’s Enneagram type. Mario conducts a typing interview, talking to Christian and asking him questions about his career and family to try to understand who he is. Mario then shares his thought process towards his provisional hypothesis as a result of this conversation.

“I’m getting to know Christian in a different way, which is fun.” -Creek [17:16]

“My goal when I’m talking to people is just to get them to talk. And I don’t care what they talk about or where they go, I just want them to talk.” -Mario [17:53]

“I think putting something and leaving something behind, it sounds silly, because no one knows who I am as an artist. I’m not a big deal, but to know that there is something, a little piece of me, a journal entry that was put to music, to know that that’s out in the world, it’s kind of nice to know that there’s something that would live past you.” -Christian [26:07]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[00:19] This week’s guest, Christian

[01:02] This week’s exercise

[03:34] What listeners should look out for

[05:16] Getting to know Christian

[16:51] Seth’s thoughts and Mario’s goal

[18:05] More about Christian

[27:06] A few of Mario’s observations

[30:27] Disconfirming questions

[34:32] Mario’s process

[36:37] A moment to gather your thoughts

[37:27] Mario’s provisional hypothesis

[47:09] Suggestions and feedback

[52:39] Where to find Christian’s music

[54:35] Outro

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, María José Munita, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Lee Fields talk about an exercise they conducted during their recent Instinctual Biases and Subtypes Weekend Workshop. The hosts explain some of the takeaways and common themes they observed from asking the participants to plan a party. Listen as they summarize how this reveals a clear representation of the instinctual biases and insight into the dynamics between them.

“You lose so much in the digital realm. And I think I was just reminded with the workshop of like theory is interesting, but it’s so boring and dead unless you actually get to work with it and observe it and interact in person with it. I think that it just kind of made it come alive to me in a different way.” -Creek [11:10]

“Is this party going to happen? And will it be fun? It’s a complimentary nature that you need all of the pieces to be represented, but different things will be highlighted if that group is solely in charge of the actual outcome.” -Lee [15:52]

“And that’s the main takeaway from all the groups that I’ve worked with, it’s that I can now see the value of having these three domains considered, and I can also see how some of these truly bother me. I look at it and I just find it not compelling, not interesting, not important, but I can understand that it’s important. I can understand that we need to have them all.” - María José [30:07]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:02] Intro

[01:08] Most hilarious moment in Nashville

[03:13] MJ and Lee explain the exercise

[07:53] The dynamics and what stood out

[11:35] The point of the exercise

[13:46] Typical takeaways between three groups

[16:31] Strategies for relationships

[20:47] Common themes among the instinctual biases

[32:10] How Pattern of Expression plays into this

[38:14] Outro

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Pod: Delusional Optimism

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora and María José Munita and Seth "Creek" Creekmore host their first live Q and A podcast, answering questions from their recent Instinctual Biases and Subtypes Weekend Workshop in Nashville.

“I used to get frustrated because our materials would change every time we changed a concept, an idea, the way in which we thought about something. Now I see it as a strength, because it means that we are challenging our own ideas, and not staying stuck into what we think because it’s printed. Because we already taught it. We’re not identified with those ideas.” - María José [26:34]

“I think what I’ve experienced as I’ve come into ATA more is that this model and these words tend to capture a more broader explanation of this phenomena of my human existence. And that doesn’t mean that the others are wrong. I’ve just found personally that this terminology captures more and gives more flexibility for me to have my own personal expression of who it is to be me with my own personal story.” -Creek [27:20]

“Everything we teach applies to every aspect in your life. We just tend to contextualize it in organizational life. And my view is if any idea I have doesn’t pass muster with a critical audience, then I shouldn’t be teaching it. So it’s almost like that’s the litmus test. If it’ll work here, it’ll work anywhere. But it’s really no different than things you would apply in your regular life.” -Mario [37:58]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[01:06] Describing strategies

[02:40] The connecting points and instinctual biases

[14:31] Applying the ATA approach to your life

[18:12] Recommended reads

[21:24] An ​​ecumenical approach

[31:42] Conversations with other schools and teachers

[36:31] Plans for a new book?

[40:33] Questioning things

[43:15] Most grateful for with the Enneagram

[47:18] Outro

Connect with us:

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The Instinctual Biases and Subtypes Weekend Workshop: subtypesworkshop.com

Mario Sikora:

IG: @mariosikora

TikTok: @mariosikora

Web: mariosikora.com

Pod: Enneagram in a Movie

Substack: mariosikora.substack.com

Maria Jose Munita:

IG: @mjmunita

Web: mjmunita.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

IG: @_creekmore

Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism