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Just Say No To The DSO

By: The Pod Mill
  • Summary

  • Dentistry is experiencing an attack by well-funded corporations who want to own the work of each dentist’s hands. While the promises of wealth and ease DSO’s present to owner-dentists appear enticing, experience shows the reality is very different. Just Say No to the DSO is a deep dive podcast for dentists in all stages of their career. It is especially for those who are looking at whether or not the option to sell to a DSO is the right choice. Our expert hosts, Bob Spiel, MBA and Nate Williams, CPA, CFP take listeners on a step by step journey through Season One laying out the realities of selling a practice to a DSO and why this isn't as good as it sounds, or the only option for successful dentists to have a thriving practice. Come and listen for the years of experience inside dentistry, as well as medicine, that have led to their logical arguments and stay for additional audience and listener feedback.
    Questions you’d like addressed live in future episodes can be sent to: questions@justsaynotothedso.com

    Let's start the discussion on how to save the future of the Dental Industry.
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Episodes
  • Season 2 Episode 4 Do DSOs Actually Overpay (Part 2)
    May 8 2024
    In this episode of "Just Say No to the DSO" hosts Bob Spiel and Nate Williams dive deep
    into the deceptive tactics employed by Dental Service Organizations (DSOs) to lure
    dentists into unfavorable agreements. Through real-life examples and a critical analysis
    of a $29 million DSO offer, they highlight the hidden costs and risks that dentists often
    overlook in pursuit of financial gain.

    The discussion underscores the importance of diligence and transparency in evaluating
    DSO deals, urging dentists to seek independent advice and scrutinize all terms before
    relinquishing control of their practices. Ultimately, the episode aims to empower
    dentists to make informed decisions that safeguard their autonomy and financial well-
    being.
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    38 mins
  • Season 2 Episode 3 - Do DSOs Actually Overpay for Practices?
    Apr 26 2024
    The podcast is episode three of Season 2 for “Just Say No to the DSO." Hosted by Bob
    Spiel and co-host Nate Williams, it discusses reasons why dental practice owners
    should avoid selling to Dental Support Organizations (DSOs).

    This podcast episode is a warning to dentists who are thinking about taking DSO deals.
    The hosts do a deep dive into a $20 million DSO deal and reveal how deceptive these
    deals can be. They stress the importance of being critical and skeptical of these deals.
    The goal of the podcast is to help dentists make informed decisions about DSO deals
    and keep control of their practices.


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    25 mins
  • Season 2 Episode 2 - What is EBITDA, and Why do DSO’s Lean On It for Practice Purchases?
    Apr 16 2024
    In this podcast episode of "Just Say No to the DSO," hosts Bob Spiel and Nate Williams discuss the importance of dentists maintaining control of their practices rather than selling to Dental Service Organizations (DSOs).

    They emphasize that smart business people don't overpay for practices and that DSOs are adept at making dentists think they're getting a great deal when, in reality, they may be giving away their practices for little to no value.

    The hosts explain the concept of EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization) and how DSOs structure deals in a way that essentially allows them to acquire practices for free or at a minimal cost to themselves.

    They warn dentists to be cautious of promises made by DSOs regarding equity and future earnings, as these promises may not materialize. The episode concludes with a teaser for the next installment, where they will delve deeper into the realities of DSO deals.
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    21 mins

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