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AUTM on the Air

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  • AUTM on the AIR is the weekly podcast that brings you conversations about the impact of research commercialization and the people who make it happen. Join us for interviews with patent and licensing professionals, innovators, entrepreneurs, and tech transfer leaders on the issues and trends that matter most.

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  • Mastering Know-How Licensing: Strategies And Legal Insights With Wes Blakeslee
    Jul 3 2024

    Have you ever wondered what truly goes into the commercialization of a patented invention? Today we're exploring an often misunderstood aspect of tech transfer: the strategic licensing of know-how.

    Know-how encompasses the vital information necessary or beneficial for the commercialization of a patented invention. While a patent license combines aspects of both federal and state law, a know-how license is governed solely by state law, as it lacks federal statutory protection.

    To guide us through this intricate subject, we have Wes Blakeslee with us. Wes holds an Engineering Degree from Penn State University and a Law Degree from the University of Maryland School of Law. With over 15 years of experience at The Johns Hopkins University as an Associate General Counsel and later as Executive Director of Technology Transfer, Wes is a seasoned expert in intellectual property and business law. A Certified Licensing Professional, he is a frequent speaker at conferences and a consultant on intellectual property and business matters.

    Join us as we dive deep into the complexities and strategic importance of know-how licensing with Wes Blakeslee.


    In This Episode:

    [01:45] Wes was an engineer with NASA before he became a lawyer. In 1982, he acquired a client that does research and development for the government. There are no patents for classified technology, so that's how he was introduced to "know-how" licensing.

    [03:34] It means something you know that others don't. Know-how must be protected like a trade secret with steps taken to protect it.

    [04:52] You don't want to patent a trade secret, because the records are public. Patented licenses can include "know-how".

    [07:31] Describing "know-how" can include specifications. There's no specific protection for "know-how", so you have to describe the "know-how" and what it can and can't be used for. There are confidentiality provisions.

    [09:24] Drafting a non-exclusive license for "know-how" is more simple than a non-exclusive license. It's critical in an exclusive license to make sure that you still have the right to use the information yourself. You have to be careful to define the field.

    [12:19] The "know-how" license looks a lot like a patent license, except for the extra terms you have to know, and that there's no general legal protection.

    [13:50] Describing the nature of the deal without releasing specifics. Process and product know-how licensing agreement.

    [16:24] A lot of "know-how" is process-oriented and gets licensed on an annual basis.

    [18:31] The goal of the negotiation is to give the other side everything they need, while preserving for your client everything that they need.

    [22:00] Common obstacles include teaching them what they need without teaching them everything you know.

    [26:49] Wes talks about the licensing for non-profits and hospitals.

    [29:28] Almost every academic license will have a patent and "know-how" in the license.

    [35:17] There should be discussion of "know-how" in the advanced licensing course. AUTM is a great resource! Licensing Executives Society is also a good resource.


    Resources:

    Wes Blakeslee Website

    Wes Blakeslee LinkedIn

    Licensing Executives Society


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    40 mins
  • Building Not Burning Bridges: Strengthening Faculty Ties for Better Tech Transfer With David McClure
    Jun 26 2024

    Have you ever wondered what really powers the success of tech transfer offices at universities? It’s not just the groundbreaking research or innovative technologies—it’s the relationships behind the scenes.

    In today’s episode, we’re highlighting the importance of cultivating strong relationships with faculty members. These connections not only facilitate technology disclosures but also significantly boost the marketing reach and appeal of research to industry partners.

    Joining us to shed light on this topic is David McClure, the Managing Director of Licensing at the Office of Research Commercialization, Texas Tech University System. David brings a wealth of experience and insight into why fostering strong faculty relationships is essential for the success of a tech transfer office.

    We’ll be discussing effective strategies for initiating and maintaining engagement with faculty, the challenges and nuances of making tough decisions about researchers' inventions, and the best communication practices for managing expectations. Plus, we’ll explore how relationship-building can be seamlessly integrated into these efforts.


    In This Episode:

    [01:21] The importance of strong relationships with faculty for tech transfer success. We have to create a system of mutual trust where each of us will do our respective jobs.

    [02:27] No invention has ever been licensed without the full support of the researcher. The feedback is very important for success.

    [04:03] The key is communication. When an invention disclosure comes in it gets assigned to a licensee manager and they carry it through until a license is negotiated. Making the process transparent and showing every step to a faculty member along the way.

    [05:21] They make decisions on new inventions in 60 days, but they try to do it in 30 days.

    [06:48] Outsourcing assessments to a third party makes the researchers feel like everyone's on the same team.

    [08:45] Maintaining engagement is important. They get a list of new faculty hires. They give them a visit and ask what they are interested in and establish a relationship from day one.

    [13:42] Communicating every step along the way is an effective communication strategy. Showing your work and letting the researchers know what you're doing on their behalf is very helpful.

    [15:02] They also use LinkedIn as a success story communication tool.

    [19:48] They make it easy and affordable for faculty members to license their technology. The industry appreciates customer validation.

    [21:03] It takes years to get a patent issued and to take a technology to market. It's a long process where you should take as many shots as possible. David and his team preach patience to new faculty members. They also use colleague examples to demonstrate the process.

    [22:52] The role of training and professional development in preparing TTO staff and faculty for successful collaboration and commercialization. David tries to get them plugged into the ecosystem as quickly as possible.

    [27:21] How strong faculty relationships impact the overall success and growth of a tech transfer office in the long term.

    [28:12] Advice for tech transfer professionals includes critical management and building a portfolio over time. Start small and build over time. Show your work. Be patient.


    Resources:

    David McClure Texas Tech University

    David McClure LinkedIn


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    32 mins
  • Holistic Strategies In Academia-Industry Collaboration With Gayathri Srinivasan, Shahila Christie, And John D. Wilson
    Jun 19 2024
    Industry-University Partnerships are crucial for fostering innovation, addressing societal challenges, and driving economic growth. By working together, universities and industries can leverage their unique strengths to create solutions that benefit society as a whole. Today, I'm excited to be joined by an amazing panel of guests, Dr. Gayathri Srinivasan, Shahila Christie, and John D. Wilson, to discuss taking a holistic approach to these partnerships.Dr. Gayathri Srinivasan is the Executive Director of MIT Corporate Relations, a position she has held since the beginning of February 2024. As Executive Director, Gayathri leads the growth of the Industrial Liaison Program (ILP) and the Startup Exchange, building on a roster of over 200 member companies and forging impactful connections between global business leaders and MIT faculty.John D. Wilson is the Director of Academic Contracting at GlaxoSmithKline. John's responsibilities include aligning industrial and academic research to ensure that science, technology, and people collaborate to benefit scientific development. John sits within a research externalization group that liaisons with all research units and therapeutic areas across his organization, as well as globally.Shahila Christie began her career in academic research focusing on small molecule drug discovery and development. Recognizing the potential for commercialization, Shahila transitioned to the entrepreneurial space by co-founding a spin-off company leveraging her research. She has consulted for university-based startups and led clinical efforts for a medical diagnostics company in oncology. In her current role at Portal Innovations, she supports the growth and development of early-stage life science technologies.I’m excited to have Gayathri, Shahila, and John with us today to talk about these crucial partnerships. In This Episode:[03:02] Holistic Industry University partnership is looking at the entire Institute and enterprise for the collaboration. Research, innovation, students, and education.[05:25] It represents a collaborative effort that spans beyond the simple technology licensing. It's a multifaceted approach that is designed to nurture.[06:30] Approaching things as a good partner who wants to collaborate and develop science is critical.[07:19] Identifying common goals is key for collaboration. Understanding where partners are looking for opportunities and what the challenges are is very important.[09:56] When addressing significant societal challenges for the public good. look at what your company is good at and what the academic is good at and be proactive about reaching out and solving the issues.[12:09] It's important to be proactive, not reactive.[13:58] Industries are well versed in knowing where the market needs are. Universities should tap into this space to leverage their capabilities and drive Innovation forward.[16:43] The expertise is in the academic centers and pharma is really good at developing drugs. Cutting-edge technology is coming out of academic centers and working together is the best choice for creating new drugs and solutions.[21:23] Startups in the university ecosystem are so important for this type of development.[24:01] Best practices for creating and maintaining communication during these crucial partnerships.[25:33] Having a dedicated point person to champion between the two institutions is key.[27:53] Looking for ways to leverage federal money, university input, and matching dollars from industry to develop future scientists.[30:44] Look at societal problems and which Industries and companies are suited to solve those problems. [34:03] We talk about sharing information to develop better technology. [34:42] Shahila talks about how VC firms analyze investment opportunities. They evaluate university partnerships through a multifaceted lens that includes assessing the technology's potential and the university's tech transfer capabilities.[36:45] VC firms play a vital role in bridging the gap between university technologies and their successful commercializations.[39:17] Key considerations for pharma companies evaluating partnerships include alignment.[44:33] For large societal questions, large partnerships and collaborations will be the answer. Government support, university research and innovation, industry collaboration and support, and the market.[45:54] Science is moving quickly and entering a transformative era. Rapid innovation is driving pharma to look more at early stage technology.[47:11] If the academic industry and VC work together, there will be an exponential increase in our capabilities.Resources: Dr. Gayathri Srinivasan Executive Director of MIT Corporate RelationsDr. Gayathri Srinivasan LinkedInJohn D. Wilson, MS, RTTP LinkedInShahila Christie LinkedIn
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    49 mins

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