Hello Imperfect Leaders!

 It's summer!! And for leaders, that means reflection. And it means planning for the coming year. It is for that reason that this week's episode is an encore episode specifically picked with your upcoming year in mind.

As Labor Day approaches, Season 3 will kick off. And I am so excited about THAT because  Jamie Almanzán from The Equity Collaborative will be joining me as a cohost and commentator. It's going to be great! So, sit back and enjoy this encore presentation of An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast.

INTRO: Choosing a name for a public building is a challenging process. With schools, a new name often includes the choosing of a mascot as well. Renaming a school or changing a mascot is often even more difficult. Community members will allege you're erasing history. I was a superintendent presiding over the renaming of Robert E. Lee Elementary School in Missouri! Most recently, I served on a renaming committee in the Seattle area. The committee process was well conceived and thoughtfully carried out by the district's current Superintendent, Amii Thompson. She made sure to make decisions with those most impacted, in this case, the Suquamish Tribe.

Now, imagine if you were the principal and your school board decided on a Thursday night to remove an offensive mascot effective immediately. My guest is Dr. Andrew Dolloff, superintendent of Yarmouth Schools in Yarmouth, Maine. His After Action Review is about exactly that! Thanks for tuning in.

Bio: Dr. Andrew Dolloff has been the superintendent of schools in Yarmouth, Maine since 2014. He is a 35-year veteran of Maine public schools, having begun his career as a chemistry teacher and basketball coach in central Maine before moving into school administration in Greater Portland in 1996. Andrew has served as a superintendent, assistant superintendent, high school principal, high school assistant principal, and athletic administrator. For nearly 10 years, he has served a community that is deeply personal to him as his grandfather graduated from Yarmouth High School. I have no doubt that leading in a hometown district must have made it even more meaningful when he was named Maine’s Superintendent of the Year in 2021.

 Hello Imperfect Leaders!

 It's summer!! And for leaders, that means reflection. And it means planning for the coming year. It is for that reason that this week's episode is an encore episode specifically picked with your upcoming year in mind.

As Labor Day approaches, Season 3 will kick off. And I am so excited about THAT because  Jamie Almanzán from The Equity Collaborative will be joining me as a cohost and commentator. It's going to be great! So, sit back and enjoy this encore presentation of An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast.

INTRO: This week, Matt Hornbeck is my guest. He is the principal of Hampstead Hill Academy in Baltimore, Maryland. In our conversation, we talk about the importance of relationships in schools and we talk about restorative practices (he describes the process of fixing what has been broken so so well).

In his After Action Review, we talk about the early years of leadership and what can be learned when a leader focuses more on what they want as opposed to documenting what they don’t want. The topic is staff attendance. Thanks for tuning in!

BIO: Matt Hornbeck is an established leader in Baltimore, Maryland. Before becoming a principal at Hampstead Hill Academy, a Baltimore City charter school, he was an educational consultant with large urban districts on resource allocation and principal training. He holds a master’s degree in Educational Administration as well as a law degree.

 Hello Imperfect Leaders!

 It's summer!! And for leaders, that means reflection. And it means planning for the coming year. It is for that reason that this week's episode is an encore episode specifically picked with your upcoming year in mind.

As Labor Day approaches, Season 3 will kick off. And I am so excited about THAT because  Jamie Almanzán from The Equity Collaborative will be joining me as a cohost and commentator. It's going to be great! So, sit back and enjoy this encore presentation of An Imperfect Leader: The Superintendents and Leadership Podcast.

Intro: Hello Imperfect Leaders! On August 29, 2005, Hurricane Katrina, a Category 3 hurricane with recorded wind speeds of 140 miles per hour devastated communities in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. I remember being a teacher in Missouri, and hearing reports of families heading north to find refuge all along the Mississippi River.

Our school system welcomed families, and quickly learned of their very specific needs. The children had been through a great deal of trauma. What I didn’t know until now was that after Katrina, in 2014, the New Orleans Public Schools transitioned from a traditional school district to a 100% charter school district. The superintendent would be hired by a school board, and it would be their responsibility to oversee and authorize each charter school (working with each charter school’s own school boards). What a task!

My guest this week describes that important work. Dr. Avis Williams is the New Orleans superintendent. She reminds us that “When you’re bringing people together around an issue, there is a difference between buy in and commitment (you’ll hear her say, “if people can buy in, they can be bought out.”). Listen for it.

She also describes the creation of a Joyful Educator Collaborative where she convenes teachers to learn more about what is going well as well as areas for continued growth. Thanks for tuning in!

Bio: Dr. Avis Williams is the superintendent of schools for the NOLA Public Schools in New Orleans, Louisiana. Prior to her historic appointment to lead the Nola Public Schools, Dr. Williams served as superintendent of Historic Selma City Schools in Selma, AL for five years.

INTRO: Hop on the Energy Bus for our latest podcast episode! This week, we're thrilled to have Dr. Jim Van Allan, a nationally recognized speaker and co-author of The Energy Bus for Schools, take the wheel. Jim shares his expertise on school leadership, student engagement, and the power of positivity in education.

In this episode, discover how Jim's journey and dynamic approach can transform a school's culture. Whether you're an educator, administrator, or just passionate about positive change, this conversation is packed with valuable insights and practical tips, include:

• Part 1: We dive into the themes of the book, especially in the post-pandemic world.

• Part 2: In our "Imperfect Leadership in After Action" segment, Jim shares a humorous, yet insightful story about a speaking engagement mix-up in Wyoming. 🤦‍♂️ His anecdote highlights the importance of flexibility and problem-solving in leadership.

Don't miss out on this enlightening and entertaining ride with Dr. Jim Van Allan! Tune in and get ready to fuel your school leadership with enthusiasm and positivity.

BIO: Dr. Jim Van Allan is the co-author of The Energy Bus for Schools (a companion to The Energy Bus, a best seller his co-author, Jon Gordon wrote, having sold over 3 million copies). In addition to being the President of the Energy Bus for Schools program, Jim is a Professor of Communication Studies at Keiser University. He holds a Ph.D. in Education Leadership where he studied the impact of The Energy Bus for Schools curriculum on a model school.

INTRO: Welcome to today's episode of An Imperfect Leader, where we sit down with Dr. Peter Dillon, a superintendent in Western Massachusetts. Peter shares his experiences working in a rural region serving, at one time, two school districts and the lessons he learned along the way.

In this episode, he shares insights on leading multiple districts, the challenges and rewards of serving small communities, and the process of redesigning what it means to be a high school student in a post-COVID world. Don't miss this conversation about harvesting collective wisdom, overcoming budget crises, and fostering student voice and engagement. Dr. Peter Dillon shares his story and lessons learned, embodying the spirit of an imperfect leader.

BIO: Dr. Peter Dillon is the superintendent of schools for the Berkshire Hills Regional School District—serving the towns of Stockbridge, West Stockbridge and Great Barrington, Mass. At one point, he also served, simultaneously, as superintendent of the Shaker Mountain School Union, which serves Richmond, Hancock and New Ashford. Previously, Peter was executive director of policy in the Office of Portfolio Planning at the New York City Department of Education, where he helped to create and sustain more than 150 new schools. He was the principal of the Heritage School in East Harlem and he taught in New York and in the Republic of the Marshall Islands as a Peace Corps volunteer.

INTRO: In my third year as a superintendent, the AVID classes at one of my high schools invited me to the school library at 7:30 in the morning. That is EARLY for high school students accustomed to starting school at almost 9 o’clock, so it had to be important. Over donuts and juice, it was the students who led an activity called Philosophical Chairs. The topic? Weighted grades. Our school district didn’t offer weighted grades and the students saw this as a distinct disadvantage. They were prepared for my argument to maintain the status quo. I reasoned, “Why would we need weighted grades? The research is really clear. If you complete an AP course, even with a C, you’re more likely to complete college.”

In Philosophical Chairs, after each statement, participants can choose to move in proximity to the person making the statement. I didn’t sway anyone. A student then stated, “I hear the argument that completing an AP course shows me that I can handle a college course, and that it becomes more likely I will finish college, but I need to GET into college first, and I need to get a scholarship to pay for it, and a peer who takes a less rigorous course and gets an A gets accepted to college and gets a higher scholarship.”

She was right (we verified this with our local University and they weren’t stripping weighted grades from transcripts). I was won over. I wish I could say that this change happened immediately. Getting 4 votes from the school board took some time, but we got there. My guest, Dr. Melvin Brown, shares his experience with a decision he made about weighted grades in Montgomery, Alabama.

In Part 1, Melvin Brown talks about the importance of reclaiming the narrative in Montgomery Public Schools. He talks about how enduring change will take time. He talks about recognizing the systems that exist, persist, and ways to RESIST. We discuss the ways external partners like EdConnective can support leadership development. We talk about the goal of increasing opportunities like algebra at middle school and the systems thinking approach that will be necessary to do that.

In Part 2, we talk about weighted grades, how AP courses and honors courses earned the same full point on a transcript, and the unintended consequences on a student’s future (scholarships and such). Dr. Brown lived the role of a lead learner.

It’s a great episode. Also, this episode had one of my favorite lines ever! I laughed out loud when Dr. Brown described himself as a student. He said, “Summa Cum Laude? No, it was more like, thank you, Laude!” I edited out my outburst!

BIO: Dr. Melvin Brown is the Superintendent of the Montgomery Public Schools in Montgomery, Alabama, a position he has held since 2022. Previous to that, he served as Superintendent of the Reynoldsburg City School District in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. And before that he served as a Superintendent in Residence and Visiting Professor at The Ohio State University. And before that, he held various leadership roles: as Deputy Superintendent, as Director of Human Resources, as an Associate Superintendent, and as both an elementary middle school principal.

INTRO: As many of you know, I serve on the Board of Directors for Be the Change Volunteers. We build schools, teacher housing, and bathrooms all over the world (currently in Peru, Malawi, India, Rwanda, Puerto Rico, and Papua New Guinea). It’s an incredible experience – if you ever want to join a build, please let me know – and one thing we try to be mindful about is the return back home after a build. You’ve just seen a lot and experienced a lot, and there is a transition back to your regularly scheduled programming. When I was speaking with my guest today, she highlighted the importance of preparing employees for when they are relocated to another country.

Brenda Harrington is my guest. In Part 1, we talk about her book, Access Denied, which seeks to support the trailblazers in your organization, the one, and often the only one in a work space and the importance for peers to be aware of the cultural field they create, curate, and permit to persist.

In Part 2, we talk about an area of Brenda’s experience that many leaders will relate to: the need to move to a new community, sometimes in a new state (you’ll hear my initial confusion about the term global mobility). Brenda talks about the coaching needed before a leader changes locations and the call to companies to think about an employee’s success.

BIO: Brenda Harrington is the CEO and founder of Adaptive Leadership Strategies, a service business that offers coaching and consulting solutions to help companies develop and grow top talent. In addition to Brenda's work as a CEO, she is also the author of Access Denied.

INTRO: When I was a superintendent, we created a geometry and construction class. Kids would take geometry on A days and then apply those principles to building a tiny home on B days. And I loved asking a student who was out there working on the home in the dead of winter why it was important to be out there working when it was so cold outside. “Today, I’m cold. Tomorrow, someone will have this home and will no longer be cold.” I loved that response. Our kids were learning, geometry, home building, empathy, and compassion. We had another class where on A days kids learned algebra and on B days, they applied their learning to a small business, a t-shirt company, they were operating. Finding ways to build relevance and entrepreneurial opportunities. These weren’t my ideas. I just was smart enough to support the educators who came to me and pitched these classes. My guest today reminded me of the importance of reclaiming the narrative about public schools - how innovative they really are and how they support opportunities previously unheard of in traditional schools (an entrepreneurial hub for students, internships, real world experiences, early college for juniors and seniors to graduate high school with an Associate Degree, debt free). Please welcome Dr. Scott Menzel.

In Part 1, we talk about creating opportunities for kids and the importance of reclaiming the narrative when it comes to public education. Scott’s rallying cry is a simple one: Because Kids. He believes the misinformation and disinformation must be confronted because otherwise false narratives take root. In our conversation, I give the example of a State Representative in Missouri who continues to claim that children are allowed to identify as cats and use litter boxes at school. Scott responds with a strategy for leaders on how to reclaim the narrative.

In Part 2, Scott talks about a technology initiative, a three-year pilot, using VR technology to improve middle school and high school math achievement. He describes the difficult decision to pull the plug on the initiative and what he learned from that.

BIO: Scottsdale Unified School District welcomed Dr. Scott A. Menzel as Superintendent on July 1, 2020. Always looking to the future, Dr. Menzel’s approach to education is student-centered with a relentless commitment to excellence and opportunity for all. Having provided 18 years of leadership to school districts within the state of Michigan, Dr. Menzel became Scottsdale Unified School District’s 27th superintendent on July 1, 2020. In 2023, he was named Superintendent of the Year by Save Our Schools Arizona and in 2024 received ERDI's Resilient Leader Award.