This week Bob is at the helm, and he’s taking us to Utah! This case is about the murders of Kathy Sheets and Steve Christensen, and there are a lot of twists and turns along the way.

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Hofmann Forgeries

Who is Mark Hofmann and what did he do? – Deseret News

Hofmann, Mark

Hofmann, Mark | BYU Library - Special Collections

Mark Hofmann's Deadly Web of Master Forgery Is at the Center of Murder Among the Mormons

Murder Among the Aggies — the Story of Mark Hofmann

Watch Murder Among the Mormons | Netflix Official Site

Forensic Files - Season 2, Episode 11 - Postal Mortem - Full Episode

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If you’re listening to this podcast, then you probably know people in prison for hurting children make up the lowest rung of the prison status hierarchy. In this case, Marvin Grimm went to prison for nearly half a century as a convicted child murderer and sex offender. He confessed to his crimes.

But, in June 2024, the Virginia Court of Appeals issued a writ of actual innocence in his case. What?! Why did the court do that? What did Marvin confess to doing fifty years ago? What happened to the victim in this case? We discuss all of that and plenty more in this episode.

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June 18, 2024 - Attorney General Miyares Secures Third Writ of Actual Innocence

Marvin Grimm, Jr. - National Registry of Exonerations

Marvin Leon Grimm, Jr., v. Commonwealth of Virginia

After nearly 50 years, Virginia man wrongfully convicted of killing child is exonerated

Virginia Exonerates Marvin Grimm, Jr. in 1975 Murder Case After 45 Years of Wrongful Incarceration

Virginia Exonerates Man Who Spent 45 Years in Prison for Death of 3-Year-Old - The New York Times

After nearly 50 years, man wrongfully convicted of killing child is exonerated

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During the summer of 1996, Laura “Lollie” Winans and Julianne “Julie” Williams were murdered in Virginia’s Shenandoah National Park. Despite a suspect being charged with the couple’s murder in 2001, their case remained open and unsolved until June 2024—almost three decades after the murders. Listen now to find out more about these women, what happened to them, and the recent developments that have closed this case after so many years. If you listened to this episode, thanks for joining us on the Brothers in Crime podcast! If you liked it, please subscribe, tell a friend, and leave a review!

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FBI Richmond Identifies Suspect in 1996 Shenandoah National Park Double Murder

Decades after 2 women were killed in Shenandoah National Park, serial rapist is linked to their deaths

Lollie Winans and Julie Williams: Couple's Murder at Shenandoah Remains Unsolved

Who’s Safe in the Woods? An Interview with Kathryn Miles, author of Trailed - Orion Magazine

2 Young Women Camping in Shenandoah National Park Were Murdered in 1996. Now, the FBI Knows Who Killed Them

FBI: DNA evidence conclusively links Shenandoah National Park murders to convicted serial rapist

Opinion | FBI, solve the Julie Williams and Laura Winans murder with DNA - The Washington Post

Also, check out Mind over Murder’s coverage (we mentioned in this episode) here: Mind Over Murder

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Human trafficking is defined by the U.S. State Department “as a crime whereby traffickers exploit and profit at the expense of adults or children by compelling them to perform labor or engage in commercial sex. When a person younger than 18 is used to perform a commercial sex act, it is a crime regardless of whether there is any force, fraud, or coercion involved.”

We call it slavery.

In this episode we talk about a federal prosecution of a North Carolina man who was convicted of conspiracy to commit sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion and of a minor; sex trafficking by force fraud and coercion; sex trafficking of a minor; using the internet to promote a prostitution business enterprise (ITAR); and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon.

This case is horrible. Human trafficking is horrible. We must do everything we can to #EndHumanTrafficking. You can call the National Human Trafficking Hotline for help 24/7 at 1-888-373-7888 or text 233733.

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National Human Trafficking Hotline | The Administration for Children and Families

Eastern District of North Carolina | Man Convicted of Human Trafficking by Federal Jury After Five-Day Trial | United States Department of Justice

Smithfield man who claimed magic powers gets life in prison for human trafficking

Already a convicted killer, Smithfield man now guilty of sex trafficking

Johnston Co NC man convicted of murder in 25-year-old killing | Raleigh News & Observer

Sex trafficker, murderer sentenced to life for 1999 killing | Crime | mydailyrecord.com

Smithfield man sentenced to 3 life sentences for human trafficking involving minors in NC

Clayton man found guilty in 25-year-old murder case in Johnston County

Johnston DA Reaches Deal With Admitted Murderer, Despite Family's Wishes

Bandida - Human Trafficking Short Film | Indiegogo

Understanding Human Trafficking - United States Department of State

International Justice Mission

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We didn’t forget about all the dads out there; we saved our Father’s Day special for the Thursday after daddy’s day, so if you forgot to get your pops–or your daddy–something special, send this episode his way! The guys we’re talking about in this episode won’t be winning father of the year awards anytime soon.

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Father accused of Killing 16-year-old son with angle grinder

Jury convicts Lexington father of shooting, killing son. Life sentence recommended

Sentencing: Father who killed son over slice of Father's Day cake

Daughter Was Sentenced for Killing Dad, His Girlfriend After Being Cut Out of Will: Here's What She Told the Judge

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In this episode of the Brothers in Crime Podcast, we talk about our experiences at CrimeCon 2024 held in Nashville, Tennessee. We discuss our interactions with fellow true crime enthusiasts, families of victims, and notable figures in the true crime community, including John Douglas and Dr. Michael Baden. Key highlights include stories from CrimeCon attendees like Rose Cobo, whose daughter Chelsea has been missing since 2016, and Bill Thomas, who continues to seek justice for his sister, Kathy, one of the Colonial Parkway murder victims. We also talk about some logistical challenges at the event *cough* exhibit hall *cough* and CrimeCon’s merch, while emphasizing the sense of community and shared passion for true crime that made the event memorable. Do you want to see us at CrimeCon in Denver? Tell us! But you should really tell the good folks at CrimeCon, so we can get a space on podcaster row.

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Here’s something new — timestamps for our episode! Let us know what you think:

00:00 Introduction to the Brothers and Crime Podcast 00:11 CrimeCon Experience in Tennessee 03:05 Meeting Rose and Her Heartbreaking Story 10:21 The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children 14:42 The Case of Jason Landry 16:08 Meeting Notable Figures in True Crime at CrimeCon 23:25 Colonial Parkway Murders and Bill Thomas 31:58 The CODIS Dilemma 34:07 CrimeCon Highlights: John Douglas 36:04 CrimeCon Experience: The Good and the Bad 39:50 Navigating CrimeCon: Tips and Tricks 49:41 CrimeCon Merch Madness 59:29 Final Thoughts and Future CrimeCon Plans

Twenty years ago in Granby, Colorado – on June 4, 2004, Marv Heemeyer drove a modified bulldozer through town, destroying buildings and… well, you’ll have to listen to find out what happened. Sometimes referred to as the “killdozer,” this is a wild story. Buckle up!

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Tread (2019) - IMDb

AUDIO: Hear from Marvin Heemeyer himself in recorded ‘manifesto’ | SkyHiNews.com

'Killdozer' 20 years later: How and why a man went on a rampage through Granby in an armored bulldozer

Terror in Granby

7NEWS Looks Inside Granby Work Shed Where 'Dozer Was Outfitted

DOZER DIGS ITS OWN GRAVE USED BY ANGRY RESIDENT TO ATTACK GRANBY, MACHINE TO BE DISMANTLED AS SCRAP

20 years after a bulldozer rampage in a small Colorado town, the legacy of the “killdozer” lives on

'Nothing Could Stop It': Marvin Heemeyer's Rampage On Granby Detailed In 'TREAD' Documentary - CBS Colorado

Destroyed in Seconds - Bulldozer Rampage

Man Behind Rampage Found Dead

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