Episodes

  • The Entrepreneurial Spirit of Design - Vanessa Watts & Erika Dray - Defining Hospitality - Episode # 164
    Jul 24 2024

    In today’s episode, Dan sits down to talk with a fiery design duo who have overcome new business challenges and thrived in the interior design industry. They are the co-founders and current partners of Watts & Dray: Vanessa Watts and Erika Dray. The two provide insights into their journey from creative director and fashion designer into partners who built a company from scratch. Take a listen and hear their story, as well as some valuable insights!


    Takeaways:

    • The importance of genuine human connection and attentiveness in hospitality can't be overstated. Leaders should foster an environment where team members feel genuinely cared for and where they, in turn, extend that care to clients and colleagues alike.
    • Hospitality is not just for the elite but should be extended to everyone, regardless of their background or status. This inclusive approach can help create a more welcoming and supportive team culture.
    • Starting and running a business often involves numerous setbacks. Leaders should be prepared to navigate these challenges with resilience and adaptability, learning from mistakes and constantly iterating on their approach.
    • While passion and spontaneity are crucial, having a well-thought-out plan and understanding business dynamics like cash flow and client acquisition can significantly impact success.
    • Allow room for wild and innovative ideas, and don’t be afraid to pursue unconventional projects.
    • Building a business with a partner involves clear communication, respect, and a shared vision.
    • Don't wait for the perfect moment or perfect plan to start. Begin your entrepreneurial journey with the understanding that learning and adjustments are part of the process.


    Quote of the Show:

    • “At that point in my career, I had never designed anything on my own. It had always been through a studio, for studio clients, and no one had ever asked me to design anything on my own, but I have some pretty wild ideas about what I think the world should look like.” - Vanessa Watts

    Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessa-watts-nyc/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-dray-6356897/
    • Website: https://www.watts-dray.com/

    Shout Outs:

    • 12:55 - Mike Suomi https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesuomi/ https://suomidesignworks.com/
    • 34:45 - Fallin’ and Flyin’ Jeff Bridges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTYyS8bxV78
    • 37:35 - The Luxor Hotel https://luxor.mgmresorts.com/en.html
    • 40:04 - The Cosmopolitan https://www.cosmopolitanlasvegas.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=mgm_corporate_performance_brand_2024&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwqf20BhBwEiwAt7dtdQ6OeEWYeaqbIeqgrtKGGEJy-0y8zcmX8OQvbZP5OgUPFXtmzNndaxoC9bUQAvD_BwE


    Ways to Tune In:

    • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPX
    • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1573596386?i=1000663163850
    • Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1s
    • Amazon Music: ​​https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419
    • Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
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    54 mins
  • INDIEConFab Recap - Dan Ryan - Defining Hospitality - Episode # 163
    Jul 19 2024
    This week, Dan Ryan sits down to talk about the INDIEConFab, a conference he attended and emceed earlier this week. He recaps on the two days he spent there and provides insights on what he thought about it (spoiler: he loved it) and summarizes the different segments he got the opportunity to emcee for! Listen to hear about Dan’s experience at the INDIEConFab!Takeaways: Mentorship can be both formal and informal but should focus on genuine curiosity and openness.Mentors should be prepared to guide mentees even if it means encouraging them to explore opportunities outside the current organization.Beyond traditional metrics like growth and revenue, success includes the quality of relationships built, the impact made on others, and the experiences created.There is a shift from "outdoor leisure" to "experiential hospitality," indicating a broader scope of creating immersive and engaging customer experiences.Authenticity in development (not "faking the funk") leads to better financial performance and genuine neighborhood integration.Quote of the Show:“I think in all of our careers, it was, growth, revenue, profit, whatever other KPIs you could think of that are these metrics of what makes a business successful. But I think we all came to this really cool realization that it's also about relationships.” - Dan RyanLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedailydanryan/ Website: https://www.ninesixseven.com/ Shout Outs:0:33 - Independent Lodging Congress https://ilcongress.com/event/asheville/1:01 - The Radical Hotel https://www.theradicalavl.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwnei0BhB-EiwAA2xuBj5YmupfziyOY6mzGki32JqPJedBpEc4pCtQ_dJ4oGEPJbHABkDHDRoCjUAQAvD_BwE 1:06 - Mike Suomi https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesuomi/3:02 - Wrong Way River Lodge & Cabins https://www.wrongwaycampground.com/ 4:10 - Plēb Urban Winery https://www.pleburbanwinery.com/ 6:43 - Radical Innovation Tour https://www.radicalinnovation.io/ 7:03 - Briggette Harenda https://www.linkedin.com/in/brigetteharenda/7:08 - Rob Blood https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-blood-13b53452/7:13 - Jennifer Krapp https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferkrapp247/ 8:15 - Greg Smith https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-smith-6093455/8:18 - Ralph Mahana https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralph-mahana-17984517/ 8:34 - Lesly Anderson https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-anderson-596794a0/10:00 - Kimberly McGlonn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-mcglonn-ph-d-4798b0134/ 10:15 - Deiter Rams https://www.vitsoe.com/us/about/good-design11:19 - Emily Isenberg https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyisenbergprojects/11:36 - Shawn Chopra https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-chopra-bb3b19102/11:38 - Carolyn Schneider https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-schneider-7aab928/13:05 - Alexis Lanman https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexis-lanman-b0b39487/ 13:07 - Daniel Del Olmo https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexis-lanman-b0b39487/ 15:32 - Sheena Brittingham https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheena-brittingham-7744a912/15:36 - David Better https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbetter/15:39 - Chris Osaka https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisosaka/15:51 - Laron Turley https://www.linkedin.com/in/laronturley/18:24 - Andrew Benioff https://www.linkedin.com/in/llenrockgroupbenioff/ 18:33 - Meg Gutowski https://www.linkedin.com/in/llenrockgroupbenioff/ 18:34 - Shannon Barnett https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-barnett-033977160/Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: ​​https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@defininghospitality
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    19 mins
  • Building The Business Of Service - Ashli Johnson - Defining Hospitality - Episode # 162
    Jul 10 2024
    Our guest this week is someone who is committed to elevating communities and creating wealth through hospitality ownership and leadership. Please welcome to the show, Founder of Hospitality Hued, Ashli Johnson!Ashli sits down with Host Dan Ryan to discuss the ways the hospitality industry can be more accommodating of Black and Brown professionals. Ashli shares her motivations for founding Hospitality Hued, the importance of early professional development, and how to instill a sense of ownership in employees.Takeaways: While hospitality is ultimately a business of service, it is rapidly evolving to better address DEI issues across employment, supplier diversity, and leadership. To remain impactful, those in the industry must actively engage in these conversations.Conferences and networking are a crucial part of success in the hospitality industry, yet many Black and Brown leaders find themselves “under conferenced”. To combat this, HUED was created to lower barriers to these opportunities for Black and Brown leaders.Leverage alumni networks to bridge the gap between academic learning and practical career development. Don't overlook the importance of having a strategic approach when pursuing career goals to avoid potential disadvantages and seize growth opportunities.To motivate teams to think like owners, consider actually giving them ownership stakes, as it fundamentally changes their understanding and investment in the business. Implementing an equity share model can drive engagement from general managers.In hospitality, it's crucial to understand how positive guest experiences impact the business's overall success and competitive position. Recognizing the connection between guest satisfaction and business metrics such as rates, market competition, and capital expenditures is essential for professional growth and effective management.Aspiring hotel or restaurant owners should carefully consider their financial and personal responsibilities before pursuing ownership. Instead of direct ownership, roles such as investor or franchisee have lower capital requirements and barriers to entry.Surround yourself with like-minded individuals who want to master the business, and ensure that your leadership is aware of your interests to help you move towards your desired career path.Quote of the Show:“Your fortune is found in the follow up.” - Ashli JohnsonLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsashlijohnson/ Website: https://www.hospitalityhued.com/ Shout Outs:2:12 - HD Vegas: https://hdexpo.hospitalitydesign.com/ 2:47 - Howard University: https://howard.edu/ 2:50 - Marriott-Sorenson Center for Hospitality Leadership: https://business.howard.edu/hospitality-leadership 44:52 - John Fareed: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnfareed/ 45:06 - From Invisible to Icon: How to Become a Known Expert in Your Industry: https://a.co/d/03AZNsoL 45:41 - Julien Saunders: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliensaunders/ 45:42 - Kiersten Saunders45:47 - Rich and Regular: https://richandregular.com/ 46:36 - Thomas Penny III: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-penny-iii-1aa40915/ 46:42 - Damon Lawrence: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hauspitality/overlay/about-this-profile/ 46:45 - Jason Bass: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncbass/ 47:01 - ILC: https://ilcongress.com/ 47:15 - Kendra Plummer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendraplummer/ 47:37 - Bashar Wali: https://www.linkedin.com/in/basharwali/ 47:56 - Lauren A. K. Darnell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenadarnell/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: ​​https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419
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    55 mins
  • Crafting Opulent Hospitality - Vibha Sawhney - Defining Hospitality - Episode # 161
    Jul 3 2024

    Joining the show this week is a hospitality professional who creates distinct projects that make emotional connections with guests. Please welcome to the show, Senior Director of Design & Construction Services at Kempinski, Vibha Sawhney.


    Vibha joins Host Dan Ryan to discuss how she creates luxury projects that meet the needs of owners. Vibha also shares the importance of collaborative empathy, the value of meticulous attention to detail, and explores Kempinski's unique approach to luxury.

    Takeaways:

    • Hospitality involves providing the highest level of service where the guest is considered supreme. For an architect, design and architecture are tools to craft unforgettable and comfortable memories for guests, emphasizing their supreme importance.
    • To gain hands-on experience and a deeper understanding of materials, immerse yourself in working alongside skilled tradespeople like carpenters and metal workers. Understanding how they work allows you to better utilize a material in planning.
    • The key to success is selecting the right partners who will give proper attention to your projects and act with empathy toward the end-users. It is essential to work collaboratively to achieve the best results and support the owner's vision.
    • A successful property requires exceptional service across all locations and maintaining high standards in essential areas like breakfast and room comfort. Consideration must be given to space constraints, ensuring comfortable environments in smaller spaces.
    • While many brands have a clear and defined aesthetic that should be designed for, your job is ultimately to work with an owner to tie their vision together. Successful collaboration blends both brand design and owner desires.
    • Hotels are ultimately an ecosystem that requires collaboration between various functions and backgrounds to function properly. Collaboration can only happen if empathetic understanding is found between employees.

    Quote of the Show:

    • “We are really open to understanding what the owner and the owner's team wants to do in a project.” - Vibha Sawhney

    Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vibha-sawhney/
    • Website: https://www.kempinski.com/en

    Shout Outs:

    • 1:43 - Kristen Conry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/conry/
    • 1:45 - Hyatt: https://www.hyatt.com/
    • 13:25 - Samuel Creations
    • 20:22 - Marina Residences Dubai: https://www.kempinski.com/en/development/upcoming-openings/kempinski-marina-residences-dubai
    • 20:27 - International Design Associates: https://www.ida-global.com/
    • 25:24 - Marriott: www.marriott.com
    • 25:25 - Hilton: https://www.hilton.com/
    • 30:13 - Çırağan Palace Kempinski Istanbul: https://www.kempinski.com/en/ciragan-palace
    • 31:05 - Kempinski Palace Engelberg Titlis Swiss Alps: https://www.kempinski.com/en/kempinski-palace-engelberg

    Ways to Tune In:

    • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPX
    • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386
    • Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1s
    • Amazon Music: ​​https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419
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    48 mins
  • Five Generations of Mountaintop Magic - Eric Gullickson - Defining Hospitality - Episode # 160
    Jun 26 2024

    Joining the show this week is a committed executive who cherishes the traditions of his resort, inspired by the legacy of his late family, the Smileys. Please welcome to the show The President of Mohonk Mountain House.


    Eric joins Host Dan Ryan, their conversation delves into the intricacies of managing a multi-generational family business, emphasizing sustainability and stewardship as core principles. Eric provides insights into their strategic planning initiatives and their commitment to balancing profitability with environmental and community preservation.

    Takeaways:

    • Hospitality means ensuring the comfort and contentment of every guest and anticipating their needs. It also includes understanding that every individual has a unique story and unique needs. Being fully present with guests, listening to them, and then delivering service based on what you've learned is key. This approach helps create a longing for guests to return even as they are leaving.
    • Focusing equally on sustainability and stewardship is essential. This involves balancing financial gains with the upkeep and improvement of the property. For example, reinvesting profits into maintaining the extensive infrastructure and natural landscape ensures that future generations can also appreciate the property.
    • Running a family business successfully requires balancing the needs of shareholders and stakeholders. At Mohonk, they ensure that while they make profits to stay operational, they also pay attention to nature, community, family, and history. This balance ensures that the business thrives in the long term and stays true to its founding principles.
    • A strong mission and principles are crucial for long-term success. Mohonk's mission is built on Quaker values like consensus-building, caring for people, and maintaining peace and serenity. These principles have guided the business for five generations and help to make clear, principled decisions for future sustainability.
    • Providing unique and diverse guest experiences can significantly enhance a resort's appeal. At Mohonk, they offer activities like mountain biking, hiking, and a Via Ferrata experience that allows guests to engage with the natural landscape in thrilling but low-impact ways. Such offerings ensure that the property remains a destination in itself, attracting visitors repeatedly.
    • Building consensus within the organization and the broader family is essential. Whether it's developing a strategic plan or making day-to-day decisions, involving all stakeholders ensures that everyone is on board with the vision and mission of the business. This approach has helped Mohonk sustain itself through five generations.
    • Effective resource management and reinvestment are critical. At Mohonk, all profits are reinvested back into the business to sustain its vast property and infrastructure. They focus on maintaining what they have while also planning for future expansions cautiously. This strategy ensures that the property continues to thrive and grow in a sustainable manner.


    Quote of the Show:

    "Hospitality is about anticipating and meeting guests' needs while recognizing their unique stories and individuality. In life, listening and showing compassion are essential, just as with a friend."


    Links:

    • Website: https://www.mohonk.com


    Shout Outs:

    • Smiley Family
    • Quaker Traditions


    Ways to Tune In:

    • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPX
    • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386
    • Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1s
    • Amazon Music: ​​https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419
    • Transistor: https://www.defininghospitality.live/
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrpt8C461L_9n_6vezzZtkQ
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • The Evolution Of Design - Julie Frank - Defining Hospitality - Episode # 159
    Jun 19 2024
    Today’s guest is a creative thinker with a unique understanding of the spaces she designs. Please welcome to the show, Vice President of Design at Aspen Hospitality Julie Frank. Julie joins Host Dan Ryan to share her journey from Architect to VP. Julie discusses her philosophy on hospitality, the importance of seizing opportunities, and how to blend spaces with the environments around them.Takeaways: Hospitality is any act that helps make people feel like a better version of their day to day selves. By taking their experiences and enhancing whatever they are seeking, you are delivering true hospitality. Attending industry events and building relationships is crucial once you're on the ownership side or involved with a brand or development. Having contacts you can rely on to address issues as they arise is paramount. It’s important to respect the historical significance of spaces when incorporating modern brand experiences. By blending homage to the past with the unique elements of the modern brand, one can create a harmonious and impactful fusion.It’s important to incorporate fun and creativity into design to engage people more effectively, rather than relying solely on teaching. In large-scale projects like museums, the visionary gestures often come from the top, with the rest focused on implementation.The best way to understand frustrations in any job is to experience them from all perspectives; embrace job changes to gain a broader understanding of professional dynamics and improve your ability to work harmoniously across different sectors.The ideal home-away-from-home experience is a relaxing and inviting space where one can feel at ease and explore the local area. To fully enjoy a property, guests should have both the comfort of well-designed rooms and relaxing communal spaces.Quote of the Show:“I wanted people to learn through spaces.” - Julie FrankLinks:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliecfrank/c Website: https://aspenhospitality.co/ Shout Outs:2:45 - Rafael Viñoly2:47 - James Polshek2:54 - Rose Center for Earth and Space: https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/rose-center 3:02 - Adam Tihany4:03 - Rockwell Group: https://www.rockwellgroup.com/ 4:04 - Avroko: https://www.avroko.com/ 4:49 - Shawn Sullivan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-sullivan-3a290546/overlay/about-this-profile/ 4:52 - Nobu: https://noburestaurants.com/ 5:54 - Starwood Hotels and Resorts8:57 - Le Meridian9:08 - W Hotels: https://w-hotels.marriott.com/ 9:41 - Brian Povinelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-povinelli-162b128/ 9:42 - George Fleck: https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-fleck-58967050/ 12:43 - Moshe Safdie22:30 - Robyn Kaminski: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynkaminski/ 24:20 - Aliya Khan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliya-khan-8245461/ 25:50 - Sam Altman28:05 - Aspen Hospitality: https://aspenhospitality.co/ 33:25 - Thierry Despont44:42 - Mark Boekenheide: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-boekenheide-aia-20b6b1a/ 48:13 - Brad Wilson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgwilson/ 48:45 - Paul McElroy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-mcelroy-3387954a/ Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPXApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1sAmazon Music: ​​https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419
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    52 mins
  • Telling A Brand’s Story - Kristen Freeland - Defining Hospitality - Episode # 158
    Jun 12 2024

    Joining the show this week is an award-winning brand innovator who is responsible for the design and experiences across most of IHGs family of brands. Please welcome to the show A Director of Design Strategies at IHG, Kristen Freeland!


    Kristen joins Host Dan Ryan to dive into the nuances of telling stories. Kristen shares the importance of mentorship programs, the best ways to get customer feedback, and the need to cater to different audiences.


    Takeaways:

    • Hospitality is all about telling a story. Regardless if you are creating a new story, or breathing life into an old one, the intent is to tell a story and deliver it successfully to your guests.
    • To effectively cater to your audience, first understand their needs by gathering insights, and then develop and test solutions. Ensure your projects are guided by clear, focused briefs that align with your success metrics to avoid losing direction.
    • To better understand customer preferences, engage directly with your target audience to gather valuable insights. Real-life dialogue and firsthand observation are crucial in confirming whether your strategy and design efforts meet customer needs.
    • Seek opportunities where you can work closely with industry leaders and immerse yourself in real-world business environments that aren't taught in college. The hands-on experience gained from these situations will boost your professional courage.
    • Nurturing and maintaining relationships is crucial in hospitality, as they form the foundation of your professional network. Make it a priority to stay connected, meet new people, and keep learning about new things to thrive in the hospitality industry.
    • In the strategy world, continual innovation prevents work from feeling monotonous and keeps things exciting. Embrace the idea that nothing is off the table, as new challenges constantly emerge once solutions are found.

    Quote of the Show:

    • “When your target guests and target audience are telling you, ‘Hey, there's other ways that you could appeal to me.’ It's important that we listen to that and that we evolve with them.” - Kristen Freeland

    Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristen-freeland-19b4b54b/
    • Website: https://www.ihg.com/


    Shout Outs:

    • 21:47 - Hilton: https://www.hilton.com/en/
    • 29:19 - Larry Traxler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrytraxler/
    • 33:43 - Scott Galloway: https://www.linkedin.com/in/profgalloway/
    • 37:57 - Crowne Plaza: https://www.ihg.com/crowneplaza/hotels/us/en/reservation
    • 43:47 - Dr. Chloe Carmichael: https://www.drchloe.com/
    • 46:38 - Karen Gilbride: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-gilbride-379b976/

    Ways to Tune In:

    • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPX
    • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386
    • Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1s
    • Amazon Music: ​​https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419
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    59 mins
  • Crossing The Threshold Of Hospitality - Eran Chen - Defining Hospitality - Episode # 157
    Jun 5 2024

    In this engaging episode, Dan sits down with Eran Chen, renowned architect and the founder of ODA. Chen discusses his journey from starting his own firm in 2007 to becoming an influential figure in urban design, teaching at Columbia and NYU. The conversation dives into the significance of hospitality in architecture and the importance of saying 'yes' to various opportunities. Eranalso explores his innovative concepts like the 'Flying Dormer' and shares insights into his books.. They discuss the importance of understanding zoning laws, balancing creativity with regulations, and envisioning a more sustainable, connected future for urban living.

    Takeaways:

    • Hospitality has evolved from offering a uniform "home away from home" experience to providing authentic, culturally rich interactions that reflect local customs and traditions. Embracing this cultural authenticity in designs creates unique experiences for visitors.
    • Embrace the journey of unknowns in your professional pursuits, as it can lead to amazing and impactful work. Stay true to your core beliefs and principles despite challenges and assignments, as they refine and strengthen your practice.
    • When running a firm and taking on new clients, it's crucial to ensure mutual respect and collaboration, seeing clients as partners in the creative process. Decline projects where clients do not value this process of discovery, even if they offer the biggest commissions.
    • The key to defining yourself in a noisy world is to genuinely understand what drives you, and then find effective ways to convey that authenticity. Embrace the gaps in your creative journey, as these transitional spaces are where true innovation occurs.
    • Intergenerational collaboration fosters personal growth and enriches project outcomes. By acting as both leader and collaborator, one can guide and provide valuable feedback, mirroring the relationship between a good professor and their students.
    • Don't be discouraged by regulations. Instead, understanding the rules allows you to creatively break them. Mastering the tools at hand is essential for architects, regardless of location.

    Quote of the Show:

    • “As we go along we don't know where we're going and we love that.” - Eran Chen

    Links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eran-chen-465b446/
    • Website: https://oda-architecture.com/
    • Book Link: https://a.co/d/9W28Zsk
    • Book Link: https://a.co/d/9MIzAL4

    Shout Outs:

    • 6:00 - Perkins Eastman: https://perkinseastman.com/
    • 29:14 - NYU: https://www.nyu.edu/
    • 29:16 - Columbia: https://www.columbia.edu/
    • 29:49 - Harvard Graduate School of Architecture: https://www.gsd.harvard.edu/architecture/
    • 44:47 - 15 Renwick: https://oda-architecture.com/projects/15-renwick
    • 56:11 - Bard College: https://www.bard.edu/

    Ways to Tune In:

    • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A2XOJvb6mGqEPYJ5bilPX
    • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/defining-hospitality-podcast/id1573596386
    • Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGVmaW5pbmdob3NwaXRhbGl0eS5saXZlL2ZlZWQueG1s
    • Amazon Music: ​​https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8c904932-90fa-41c3-813e-1cb8f3c42419
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    1 hr and 2 mins