In this episode of Understanding Men, Luke and Fraser get spiritual and take a look at the Buddhist First Noble Truth, which refers to the 'suffering' or 'unsatisfactoriness' of life. Inspired by previous episodes, contributors, and recent stories they have shared - they discuss if it's ever possible to live completely without suffering.

Highlighting the mental and emotional anguish we may experience beyond physical pain, the guys share instances where they may have suffered by getting caught in thought and panic. They also highlight the need to interrupt these thought processes while also acknowledging that these experiences can be useful in the long term.

Luke and Fraser also revisit the theory that they may actually enjoy suffering and struggle in their own lives, and wonder if even in retirement they will find their own challenges to overcome. Finally, they discuss the feelings they have around wanting to protect their loved ones from pain, and admit that with the power of hindsight, these can be valuable lessons throughout their lives.

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