Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today is part one of a two part series on money, masculinity, and equity at home. For today’s episode we welcome Will and Ellie Windle.

Will Windle is an MMA fighter and EMT. Ellie Windle is the Founder and Chairperson of Persist. Together, they have busted through the gender norms that can suffocate the space they both need to grow in their careers and work as teammates to manage their home and be parents.

For today's episode, they share practical advice for couples navigating economic realities, emotional labor, and parenting together. Enjoy the show.

00:00 Introduction
01:38 Will, you’ve lived several “manly” archetypes—firefighter, EMT, MMA fighter, ski patrol, athlete. How did those experiences shape your early ideas about what it meant to be a man, a provider, and a partner?
05:27 Ellie, you said you sometimes fantasize about the Don Draper era because of the “freedom to perform.” What does that reveal about the pressure modern couples carry compared to past generations?
09:15 Will, you went from contributing 50 percent of the household income to 100 percent during Ellie’s startup years. What were the invisible pressures—financial or emotional—that came with being the sole earner for a period of time?
17:26 Ellie, what do you think women sometimes misunderstand about men who are truly trying to lean in at home?
27:05 Conclusion

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Calibrate Founder & CEO Nick Ashburn. Mr. Ashburn is the former Managing Director and Head of Responsible Investing at PNC and former Senior Director at Wharton with 15+ years in human-centered financial services and product strategy.

In this conversation, we discuss the significance of aligning financial goals with personal values, the challenges of lifestyle creep, practical strategies for couples to manage their finances collaboratively, and a framework for evaluating spending decisions. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:18 What inspired you to start Persona Wealth, and how does your approach differ from traditional financial planning firms?
03:39 You talk about helping clients “align money with purpose.” What does that mean for couples trying to merge their financial lives?
04:59 What’s one mistake you often see couples make when trying to apply cookie-cutter financial advice?
07:23 How do you help dual-income households navigate financial decisions when one partner is more financially savvy—or simply more interested—than the other?
15:40 Many couples argue about money. In your experience, what role does financial planning play in reducing that tension?
18:40 What’s your advice to couples struggling with lifestyle creep, especially when both partners are progressing in their careers?
25:31 How do you incorporate behavioral finance principles when advising couples with very different money mindsets?
28:35 What strategies have you found to be most helpful in managing money as a team in your marriage?
32:24 What’s one actionable step a couple could take today to feel more aligned financially and emotionally?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as an Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

We have three incredible leaders joining us for today’s special edition. Dr. David Smith of the Johns Hopkins Carey Business School and author of Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace, Dr. Corinne Low who teaches at Penn’s Wharton School and author of Having It All, and Paul Sullivan – Founder of The Company of Dads and former NYT columnist.

This conversation explores the concept of allyship, particularly in the context of the workplace and home. It emphasizes the importance of understanding and addressing gender roles, the division of labor in dual-career families, and the impact of parenting on career trajectories.

Enjoy the show.

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