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The sisters talk about something that they talk about anyway- fatness, fatphobia, the fashion industry, and why we hate George Balanchine

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Laura and Virginia discuss their origin story as Mormons, the many weird things they were brought up to believe, and explain the sad imbalance that led to The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Also, Coca-Cola, Lilly Gantry, murder, and what Mark Twain thought of Salt Lake City.

References:

No Man Knows My History: The Story of Joseph Smith- Fawn M. Brodie

What Mark Twain had to say about Utah and Mormons when he visited Salt Lake City- Lauren Fields

Mormons: Racism in the Book of Mormon

Dateonomics: John Birger

The Real Story Of Mormon Underwear, The Sacred Temple Garments Worn Day And Night By Members Of The LDS Church: Kaleena Fraga

Under The Banner Of Heaven - Jon Krakauer

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Welcome to our fiftieth episode!

In this ep we discuss aging, the different standards for men and women, and how our dead Dad used to dress like Off-Duty Trump, which wasn't a good look for anyone. We give hot tips on how to dress your age and why you have to fudge your age to date!

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What does it mean to be cancelled? Why does a pair of shorts haunt Laura to this day? Virginia goes on a rant about men in fine art. Also, a free public service Virginia is offering where she will screen male comedians for dating purposes.

A quote I wish had occurred before we recorded this, about men in power and the trial of Sean "Diddy" Combs:

“You’re not just going up against the person who assaulted you,” said Drew Dixon, who said she was abused by Russell Simmons and L.A. Reid. “You are going against everyone who benefits from their brand and revenue stream.”

References:

Psychology Today: Shame

What Is Cancel Culture and What Does It Mean In 2024? Vice: Australia: Madeline Lo-Booth

So, You’ve Been Publicly Shamed: Jon Ronson

The Mental Health Effects of Cancel Culture: Lindsey Toler

The Effects of Cancel Culture on Women: Linda Zhu

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More stories about stuff we used to put up with- also, who's the best Bond? What happened to Laura's Being John Malkovich nesting dolls? And who steals toilet paper from Wal-Mart?

References:

Why Does He Do That? Lundy Bancroft

Psychology Today- 11 Reasons People Stay In Unhealthy Relationships-
Roxy Zarrabi Psy. D.

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Just a real b*tchfest- chatting about Beat Happening, Superman II and Robyn Hitchcock on the way- and why Virginia can never look David J in the eye again.

Exes beware! Probably don't listen to this one.

Learn from us, young people!

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On the occasion of our Dad's birthday, we do an all-dad episode!

PUT THE WHISKY DOWN!


Pediatric Associates of Franklin: THE IMPORTANCE OF A FATHER IN A CHILD’S LIFE

“Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents”:Lindsay C. Gibson

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The sisters discuss dreams, existential, REM, and Robyn Hitchcock.

Laura talks big smack about Freudian dream analysis and the time she got yelled at.

Scientific American:The Science Behind Dreaming -Sander Van Der Linden

Sleepwalking: What Is Somnambulism? Eric Suni and Nilong Vyas

Medical News Today: What does it mean when we dream?

Good Therapy: Dream Analysis

Helpful Professor: definition of existentialism

Dream Interpretation: Science or Pseudo-science? Javier Yanes

Psychology Today: People Who Do Not Dream: Scientific American:

Patrick McNamara Ph.D.