In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Ryan Austin of Cognota about storytelling, public speaking, and why learning & development needs to be part of design and operations from the beginning.

Our favorite moments:

• (02:25) Anything you do involves telling stories as part of communication
• (04:03) It’s ok not to be sharp around the edges
• (05:50) Don’t practice a script, practice the key points you want to remember
• (08:39) A partner operating model positions L&D as a partner with the business to effectively prioritize and collaborate
• (12:32) Despite feeling nervous, take the initiative. The worst that can happen is a “no”
• (13:27) Build a Learning Culture Committee or Advisory Board to position L&D as problem-solvers, not order-takers
• (14:22) First define success, then work backwards to assess how to get there
• (17:44) Community is at the core of Cognota, not an add-on    

If you enjoyed this conversation about the entrepreneurial journey, check out Season 2, Episode 21, my conversation with Kristin N. Spencer about why storytelling is so powerful. The link is in the show notes.

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In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten talks with Kristen Nielsen Donnelly about the connection between nervousness and a speaker’s responsibility to their audience. Hear how the idea of a sandbox helps Kristen be more flexible onstage.

Our favorite moments:

• (02:45) If you’re not nervous before public speaking, you don’t recognize your responsibility in the moment
• (03:19) The audience’s attention is a non-renewable resource
• (07:13) Conversations about profit are different from conversations about revenue and earning a living
• (08:00) Appropriate revenue to live on is limited by your own ethic
• (09:52) Speaking is about connecting with people’s humanity
• (12:04) For Kristen, the idea of calling invokes more an idea of service, less of performance
• (15:24) Kirsten respects showmanship, but has to know what’s underneath  
• (19:49) Strict pedagogy needs to marry showmanship
• (21:41) You can improvise all you want to inside your sandbox
• (23:34) The nerves should stay, but the post-analysis does have to be as painful as it might be for you now

If you enjoyed this conversation about the entrepreneurial journey, check out Season 1, Episode 5, our conversation managing your energy while speaking onstage. The link is in the show notes.

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In this week's episode of Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking, Kirsten and Kellie talk about current developments in their entrepreneurial journey. Find out why Kirsten’s rediscovered a database she built years ago and what it’s like for Kellie, who’s a partner in two separate start-ups right now.

Our favorite moments:

• (00:36) Everything that changes is really good data for getting to your goals
• (03:26) If you’re a big picture person, you need a detail-oriented person on your team, because the little bits still need to be taken care of
• (07:35) Reframe failure as iterations
• (08:34) Even experienced entrepreneurs sometimes need to pivot
• (11:20) Self-care is crucial for entrepreneurs
• (13:15) Kirsten plays video games when she needs a break
• (13:52) Kellie rests by moving more, getting some form of exercise

If you enjoyed this conversation about the entrepreneurial journey, check out Season 1, Episode 10, our wrap-up of season one that took an earlier look at how we came to be entrepreneurs at all. The link is in the show notes.

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• S1 Ep 10 | Ongoing Mastery: Presenting & Speaking Season One Wrap-Up: What Did We Learn?
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