In this episode, I sit down with Ed Vargo, founder and CEO of Burning River Advisory Group, to discuss the crucial topic of financial confidence, especially as it relates to women before, during, and after divorce. Ed shares insights from over 20 years in the financial services industry, explaining how he and his business partner Melana Carbary became invested in supporting predominantly women-led households. Their focus sharpened when they repeatedly saw women emerge from divorce with suboptimal settlements, despite having excellent legal advice, due to misunderstandings or a lack of financial guidance.

Ed emphasizes the unique challenges women face regarding money, including persistent myths such as “I can’t learn money” or “my partner is better at handling finances.” He discusses the risks of these mindsets and highlights the importance of taking an active role in financial decisions, not only for divorce but throughout life. The conversation touches on the emotional baggage many carry about money, shaped by childhood experiences and societal messages, and how these beliefs can directly impact financial well-being and confidence.

We reflect on the necessity of financial literacy as a life skill, particularly noting the limitations of traditional divisions of labor in households. Ed also introduces EnlightenHer, a new educational venture aimed at making expert financial advice and resources more accessible to women at all stages. This thoughtful conversation offers practical perspectives and encouragement for anyone looking to take charge of their financial future, whether navigating a divorce or simply seeking more confidence with money.

About the Guest:

Ed Vargo, Founder and CEO of Burning River Advisory Group, has more than 20 years of experience in the financial services industry, and is a member of the Financial Planning Association® and the Society of Financial Service Professionals. Ed strives to help women develop a long-term financial plan for every stage of life including retirement planning, education/college planning, and helping women transition successfully in cases of death and divorce.

To connect with Ed:

Website: https://burningriverag.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edvargo/

About the Host:

Mardi Winder-Adams is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

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Today I am joined by Kristen Curtis, a certified EFT practitioner, Akashic records reader, and spiritual coach who specializes in supporting women navigating divorce and significant life transitions. Kristen shares her approach, which centers on empowering women to reconnect with their intuition and inner strength by drawing on both emotional and spiritual practices. She begins by talking about her own journey and how practices like Emotional Freedom Techniques (more commonly known as tapping) helped her realize the importance of looking within for healing and clarity.

Throughout our conversation, Kristen explains how EFT works by using gentle tapping on specific points of the body to help restore energetic balance, regulate the nervous system, and address emotional challenges such as anxiety, self-blame, and fear. She highlights how EFT can be especially useful for those uncomfortable with traditional talk therapy, as the focus shifts from reliving difficult memories to addressing bodily sensations and fostering self-acceptance in the present moment.

The episode explores common feelings of failure and self-blame that surface during divorce, and Kristen describes how she helps clients cultivate compassion for themselves, even as they process complex emotions. She also touches on the significance of learning to trust oneself and the universe during times of uncertainty, and the importance of allowing space for integration and healing after major life changes. Kristen’s warm, straightforward insights offer listeners a gentle, accessible approach to healing and personal growth when facing transition.

About the Guest:

Kristen Curtis is a certified EFT Practitioner and Akashic Records Reader and spiritual coach. She is passionate about helping women reconnect with their intuition and remember their inner power source beyond trauma. She specializes in transforming deep grief and regaining empowerment through big transitions in life. She is a wife and mama to three boys ages twelve, nine, and two. She is a big foodie and loves enjoying time outside and cheering on her kids at sports events.

To book Kristen’s free 30-minute stress relief session: kristencurtis8613@gmail.com

To connect with Kristen:

Website: www.souleft.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristen.curtis.eft/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kristen.curtis.946

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristen-curtis-4a65801a9/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@kristencurtis2917

About the Host:

Mardi Winder-Adams is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

Connect with Mardi on Social Media:

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@divorcecoach4women

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In this heart-centered interview, I have the honor of talking with Melissa Deally, an integrative mind-body health practitioner, international speaker, and the founder of Girls Matter, a nonprofit supporting girls’ education in Kenya and Uganda. Melissa shares her thoughtful approach to health, emphasizing that true healing goes beyond just the physical body. She introduces listeners to the idea that we have not only a physical body but also emotional, mental, and spiritual bodies, and that addressing all four is key to overall well-being. Melissa explains how deeply rooted childhood programming can affect our ability to follow through on healthy choices, highlighting the importance of working with the unconscious mind to shift these patterns and create lasting change.

Their conversation sheds light on tools such as timeline therapy and NLP, which can help individuals release stored emotions and reframe old stories, offering hope for those who feel stuck or overwhelmed, especially during difficult transitions like divorce. Melissa also discusses the power of teaching these techniques to children, envisioning a future where young people are better equipped to manage their emotions and mental health.

The episode closes with a look at Melissa’s philanthropic passion: keeping girls in school through Girls Matter and why this mission is so vital for breaking cycles of poverty. Together, we explore practical ways to grow, heal, and contribute, reminding listeners that whether in personal health or supporting others, we all have resources within us and the ability to make a meaningful difference.

About the Guest:

Melissa Deally is an Integrative Mind-Body Health Practitioner, Trainer of NLP, Time Line Therapy®, Hypnotherapy and Magnified Healing®, dedicated to helping clients detox and heal their physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual bodies. With a fully virtual practice, she serves clients worldwide. Melissa is also the co-founder of the *Amplify Impact Academy*, where she trains others in mind-body healing modalities to expand her impact. An international speaker and five-time best-selling author, Melissa hosts the award-winning *"Don’t Wait For Your Wake-Up Call!"* podcast, ranked in the top 2% globally by *Listen Notes* and recognized with the *2024 Women in Podcasting* award.

When not working with clients, Melissa is either outdoors with her daughters, skiing or hiking, or dedicating her time to her non-profit, *Girls Matter*, which focuses on keeping girls in school in Uganda and Kenya, breaking the cycle of poverty one girl, one family, one village at a time.

For Melissa's gift: https://welcome.yourguidedhealthjourney.com/Suggestions

To connect with Melissa:

Email: melissa@yourguidedhealthjourney.com

YGHJ Website: https://yourguidedhealthjourney.com/

Amplify Impact Academy Website: https://amplifyimpactacademy.com

Girls Matter website: https://girlsmatter.ca

Fb: https://www.facebook.com/melissadeally

LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissadeally/

Insta: https://www.instagram.com/guidedhealthjourney/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/MelissaDeally

About the Host:

Mardi Winder-Adams is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

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If you're in the thick of a divorce or just thinking about what life would look like after, the big question of "What happens to the house?" probably feels overwhelming. That's precisely what we're digging into this week. I am joined by Jeff Landers, CDFA, CDLP, and the founder of Divorce House Sense®, LLC.

Jeff is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and a Certified Divorce Lending Professional. He's worked with nearly a thousand people navigating divorce, written seven books on the subject, and contributed his expertise everywhere from Forbes to Huffington Post. If anyone can demystify the process of keeping or letting go of the family home, it's Jeff.

We talk about why the home is way more than just another line on the asset sheet, the emotional issues and hidden financial pitfalls, and why talking to a specialist early on can save you significant stress, money, and heartache. Jeff shares stories of clients who've made tough choices, from those with children trying to keep stability to "gray divorce" couples without kids at home and everyone in between.

You'll gain insight into everything from calculating if you can afford to keep the house to what happens when financial plans go sideways. Plus, Jeff shares practical tips on negotiating with your ex, what your divorce lawyer might not know about the mortgage process, and why you definitely don't want to be "house rich and cash poor."

So if the thought of the family home is keeping you up at night, or you know someone facing this crossroads, settle in, and get ready for some expert advice that might just change how you approach this big divorce decision.

About the Guest:

Jeffrey A. Landers, CDFA, CDLP, is the founder of Divorce House Sense®, LLC, whose mission is to help divorcing people who want to keep their marital home. Jeff is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA™), Certified Divorce Lending Professional (CDLP™), licensed Real Estate Broker and licensed Mortgage Originator. Jeff has written 6 published books with 18,000+ copies sold nationwide focusing on the financial aspects of divorce for women, as well as contributing articles regularly to Forbes.com, The Huffington Post, DailyWorth, More.com, Lawyers.com, and many other online publications.

Jeff's 7th book, Divorce House Sense®: How to Keep Your Marital Home So You Can Move On, Not Out® was recently published. He is a go-to expert for the financial aspects of divorce for women, interviewed extensively by CBS and FOX Television News, as well as The Wall Street Journal, Dow Jones, The Miami Herald, Smart Money, Consumer Reports, and The Christian Science Monitor. Jeff earned his BA degree in psychology from Columbia University and studied law at Pace University School of Law.

For Jeff's gift of a discount on his book, use code TDS when checking out at https://divorcehousesense.com/

To connect with Jeff:

Website: DivorceHouseSense.com (https://divorcehousesense.com/)

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jefflanders/

About the Host:

Mardi Winder-Adams is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

Connect with Mardi on Social Media:

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Divorcecoach4women

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/

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In this episode, Mardi Winder-Adams is joined by Sue Bruckner, a licensed professional counselor and holistic relationship coach, for an open conversation centered on supporting highly sensitive women through the experience of divorce and significant life transitions. Sue draws from both her own story and years of professional experience to paint a nuanced picture of what it truly means to be highly sensitive. She highlights that this trait, which is present in about 20 to 30 percent of people, is not a diagnosis or a flaw, but a natural, biological characteristic. Sue uses the acronym DOES to illustrate the experience: deeply feeling emotions, frequent overstimulation, heightened emotional responsiveness and empathy, and a fine-tuned awareness of subtleties in both people and surroundings. These traits, she explains, bring real strengths but can also create unique challenges, especially when navigating the emotional turmoil of divorce.

The conversation moves into practical territory as Sue describes how highly sensitive women are often drawn into patterns and relationships that echo their early life experiences, sometimes with partners who are less attuned or even emotionally distant. She underscores the importance of boundaries, both with others and with oneself, and how establishing them is tied not only to personal safety but also energy management and self-respect. Together, Sue and Mardi discuss the necessity of self-compassion, highlighting how learning to be kind to oneself is foundational for making positive shifts in your family, in the workplace, and in daily life.

Sue introduces the importance of clarifying core values as a way to guide difficult decisions and maintain healthy boundaries. She shares about her core values inventory, adapted from her work with Brene Brown, which she offers as a gift to listeners wanting to step into a more aligned and empowered new chapter. Through their warm and reassuring exchange, Mardi and Sue remind listeners that while sensitivity can bring vulnerability, it is also a profound source of strength, especially when met with understanding, thoughtful support, and self-acceptance. Those seeking further support are encouraged to connect with Sue directly for more resources and personalized guidance, reinforcing the message that sensitive women do not have to navigate these transitions alone.

About the Guest:

Sue Bruckner, a Licensed Professional Counselor turned Holistic Relationship Coach, is the founder of With Intention, a transformative personal development company created specifically for sensitive women who experience life deeply and often find their depth undervalued in relationships. After walking through the fire of an unhealthy marriage, navigating a challenging divorce, and facing unexpected widowhood, Sue transformed these profound experiences into her life's calling.

Sue's signature program, Tribe Rising, is an intimate online sanctuary where sensitive women navigating relationship transitions find not just healing but also profound transformation and authentic sisterhood. This unique membership platform operates at the community, group, and individual levels, meeting women exactly where they are on their journey. Through a powerful blend of growth mindset principles, spiritual awareness, and positive psychology, Sue guides women to transform emotional chaos into the intentional creation of their next chapter—where relationship endings become the most profound beginnings they could imagine.

For Sue’s gift, Core Value Inventory: https://wonderful-dawn-34642.myflodesk.com/et5zo892qv

To connect with Sue:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suebruckner/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/withintentioncoaching/

Community: https://wonderful-dawn-34642.myflodesk.com/i4jpplh08t

About the Host:

Mardi Winder-Adams is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach,...

Today, Mardi Winder-Adams speaks with Deborah Greenhut, who brings both a personal and professional lens to the world of caregiving. Deborah, the author of The Hoarder's Wife and host of The Share Giving Secret podcast, shares her own story of going through divorce at 60 after decades of caring for a husband with hoarding disorder and several cognitive diagnoses. What makes Deborah’s experience especially relatable is the very human way she discusses the hidden and evident challenges that come with being a caregiver, especially when your partner’s issues aren’t always visible to others.

Together, Mardi and Deborah unpack how different it can feel to care for someone dealing with mental health or cognitive issues compared to those with clear-cut physical illnesses. Deborah points out that these "hidden caregiver" roles often carry a double burden: not only do you have to manage the complexities and lack of predictability at home, but you also deal with limited or virtually no understanding from friends, family, or even professionals who might not recognize the true extent of what goes on behind closed doors.

The conversation gets real about burnout and those moments when you feel completely alone, overwhelmed, and like no one else could possibly pick up the slack. Deborah talks honestly about the guilt and resentment that can creep in, and how easy it is to convince yourself that if you just try a little harder, everything might get better. She urges listeners not to wait until they’re completely depleted before seeking help, and shares her advice for figuring out which areas of life are being most affected.

This episode serves as a comforting reminder that nobody is meant to shoulder these responsibilities on their own. Deborah offers not just practical tips for managing stress but also a compassionate perspective for anyone struggling with the idea of stepping back or even leaving a relationship that has become unsustainable due to caregiving demands.

Mardi and Deborah’s talk is supportive and down-to-earth, making it a reassuring listen for anyone going through tough times as a caregiver, and a useful one for those looking for ways to lighten their load and care for themselves in the process.

About the Guest:

Deborah Greenhut’s long marriage to a mentally disordered man changed her role to family caregiver. In Deborah’s words, “Our conflict helped me uncover a missing piece in the puzzle of resilience”. In 2022, at age 70, she published a novel, “The Hoarder’s Wife,” based on her story.

Deborah wants to reach more struggling caregivers through public speaking. During her 50-year professional career, she has spoken on communication in academic, corporate, university, and non-profit settings. Following her divorce at age 60, she began to focus on caring to help preserve the resilience of caregivers have. Through her Substack publication she offers suggestions on negotiating with your family to prevent caregiver burnout and my podcast, “The Sharegiving Secret” amplifies those ideas with solutions.

To schedule a conversation with Deborah: https://deborahgreenhut.com/ - request a complimentary session.

To connect with Deborah:

Website: www.deborahgreenhut.com

Website: www.therationalcaregiver.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahgreenhut01/

Substack:https://nonnegotiablesforcaregivers.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=substack_profile

Substack: https://substack.com/@deborahgreenhut?utm_source=user-menu

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DeborahGreenhut-q4k

About the Host:

Mardi Winder-Adams is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles,...

In this helpful parenting and personal development episode, I have a great conversation with Annette Evans Wilson, who brings both wisdom and professional experience to the topic of navigating family changes, especially during divorce. Annette begins by sharing her journey of overcoming self-doubt and discouragement that began in childhood, where she was surrounded by limiting beliefs echoed by family members. Despite this, she found the determination to pursue her dream of becoming an English teacher, and later, to create the YOU Life Skills and Leadership Educational Foundation after retirement. Her foundation focuses on supporting youth in self-discovery, empathy-building, and community engagement.

We talk, the discussion turns to Annette’s years teaching in a challenging inner-city school environment, where she noticed that her students, and their parents, benefited from structured self-reflection and a supportive approach. Drawing from her classroom experience, Annette emphasizes the value of encouraging young people, and by extension their families, to change the narrative from “I can’t” to “Maybe I can’t, but I will.” She highlights the importance of exploring Maslow's hierarchy of needs not just for children, but for adults as well, recognizing how foundational needs, safety, and a sense of belonging must be addressed in times of upheaval.

Annette describes how her workbook, “Know Yourself,” is set up for families to use together, providing practical exercises that foster honest conversations and deeper self-awareness. She underlines how tools like the identity wheel help families recognize that beliefs and values are shaped by various influences—family, culture, and personal experience—and that developing authenticity is an ongoing journey for everyone. Annette introduces the term “teenitude” to help parents reframe and appreciate the changes their children experience in adolescence as opportunities for growth rather than conflict.

Annette’s insights remind families that everyone’s perspectives are shaped by their experiences, and that embracing these differences can create more resilient, connected households, even in the midst of change. Through practical advice and genuine warmth, this conversation offers reassurance that with empathy and open communication, families can thrive through life’s transitions.

About the Guest:

Annette Evans Wilson overcame personal and societal obstacles to become a dedicated English teacher, positively impacting the lives of countless young people in a challenging environment. Her mantra "maybe I can't, but I will" empowered her students to surpass limitations and achieve their goals.

Notably, she mentored the first female college football head coach in the US. Following her retirement, Annette established the YOU Life Skills and Leadership Educational Foundation to continue guiding youth in self-discovery, community service, and empathy. With her own sons thriving in diverse careers, she advocates for recognizing and nurturing individual differences to foster success.

For Annette’s gift: email annette@youlsl.org with "authenticity" in the subject for a signed copy of my book "Know Yourself: How to Enjoy an Authentic Life"

To connect with Annette:

Website: www.youlsl.org

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/youlsl/

About the Host:

Mardi Winder-Adams is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

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In this episode of The D Shift: Redefining Divorce and Beyond, host Mardi Winder-Adams welcomes back Lisa Zeiderman, managing partner at Miller Zeiderman LLP and a seasoned divorce attorney and financial analyst. They delve into the complexities of gray divorce, focusing on the unique challenges faced by women over 50.

Lisa shares her expertise on critical topics such as:

• The financial impact of divorcing after a long-term marriage

• The realities of alimony and why permanent support is increasingly rare

• Strategies for rebuilding financial independence post-divorce

• The importance of understanding and dividing retirement assets

• How to approach the division of the marital home and other significant assets

They also discuss the emotional aspects of starting over later in life and the importance of seeking professional guidance. Lisa highlights resources like Savvy Ladies, offering free financial counseling to women navigating these transitions.

The conversation also addresses the need for careful financial planning and working with trusted advisors who can help clarify budgets, retirement funds, and sustainable lifestyle choices. Lisa and Mardi examine the impact of adult children’s involvement in divorce negotiations, encouraging parents to put their own well-being first. Additionally, they discuss decisions around the marital home and vacation properties, highlighting tax considerations and the importance of prioritizing personal needs. Throughout the conversation, Lisa’s advice always circles back to the need for clear understanding and realistic planning to secure a stable future after divorce.

Whether you're facing a gray divorce, supporting someone who is, or simply want to be informed, this episode provides valuable insights to help you move forward with confidence.

About the Guest:

Lisa Zeiderman is Managing Partner at Miller Zeiderman LLP, based in New York. A matrimonial attorney, CFL and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, she regularly handles complex financial and custody divorce matters, as well as pre- and post-nuptial agreements for high-net-worth individuals. Named to the Crain’s New York list of Notable Leaders in Accounting, Consulting and Law for 2024, Notable Woman Attorneys for 2021 and 2022, as well as a Crain’s New York Notable Diverse Lawyer for 2022, a Hudson Valley Best Lawyer in 2022, 2023 and 2024, and a Super Lawyer, Lisa has received a host of awards recognizing outstanding client service and others that reflect peer review.

Lisa is a founding member of the American Academy of Certified Financial Litigators and a member of the panel for Attorneys for Children. In addition to authoring a well-read blog on Psychology Today, “Legal Matters: Understanding Mental Health Issues as They Apply to Divorce and Child Custody,” and co-hosting the Savvy Ladies podcast “The Power of the Ask”, Ms. Zeiderman is regularly published in Financial Advisor Magazine, The New York Law Journal, and by the Forbes Business Council. She is also interviewed on issues ranging from financial empowerment to tax issues to child custody in a host of media and podcasts and speaks to groups on these topics as well.

Ms. Zeiderman, a Fordham University of Law graduate, serves as Board Chair of Savvy Ladies, Inc., and serves on the board of Family Legal Care (formerly known as LIFT, Legal Information for Families Today). Lisa is also a member of the Forbes Business Council and Chief.

To connect with Lisa:

Website: www.lisazeiderman.com

Social Media: @LisaZeiderman on LinkedIn, FB, Insta, X

About the Host:

Mardi Winder-Adams is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal,...