Today, Mardi Winder welcomes Getrude Matshe, a truly remarkable guest whose story radiates resilience, empowerment, and the healing power of sharing. As an international speaker, author, three-time TEDx presenter, and founder of the Her Story Circle movement, Getrude has impacted hundreds of thousands of women worldwide, helping them find strength and community after major life challenges.

Getrude candidly discusses her experiences growing up in Zimbabwe, building a life in New Zealand, and twice facing the pain of divorce, including the emotional fallout and health struggles that followed. It was through this turmoil that she found the spark for Her Story Circle, a safe, supportive space for women to share the stories that shape them. She recounts how a simple Facebook post about starting over at fifty resonated with thousands of women globally, revealing the common challenges of isolation, loss, and the need for healing after a major life change.

Together, Mardi and Getrude explore the benefits of storytelling—not just as a tool for personal catharsis but as a lifeline for others navigating similar paths. They discuss important topics like the mental and physical health impacts of divorce, the challenges of rediscovering love, and the lessons learned from missteps in relationships. Getrude inspires listeners with her journey to international thought leadership, including how her TEDx talks and her unique approach to building community led to opportunities to lecture around the world and empower others to find their voices.

Getrude’s final message resonates: never regret your past, but use those experiences as stepping stones to growth and transformation.

About the Guest:

Getrude Matshe is an international speaker, celebrated author, and three-time TEDx speaker known for her radiant presence and inspiring mission to uplift others. A Rooney International Scholar and Philanthropy Consultant, she helps individuals discover their life purpose and unleash their full potential. She is the founder and Global Curator of the HerStory Circle and DiversityConnector Podcast, platforms dedicated to amplifying underrepresented voices.

With a background in IT and entrepreneurship, Getrude has launched successful ventures in medical recruitment, real estate, tourism, talent, and film—providing ethnic extras for films like King Kong and Avatar. As a “book writing midwife,” she mentors aspiring authors to share their stories with the world. She has spoken at the United Nations and on global stages, weaving wisdom as storyteller, poet, filmmaker, and cultural ambassador. A proud mother of three and grandmother, Getrude is deeply committed to women’s empowerment and generational legacy.

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To connect with Getrude :

Website: www.HerStoryCircle.com

LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/getrude-matshe-1a65a614/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HerStoryCircleTV

About the Host:

Mardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

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Let’s talk about building our personal success! Today, Mardi Winder gets real about something we all deal with, and that is our habits. You know, those little routines that can either make our lives easier or trip us up, especially when we’re going through big changes like a divorce.

Mardi chats with Ronnie Loaiza, life coach, personal trainer, journalist, and honestly, just an all-around inspiring person. Ronnie shares her own story of how she turned her health around and discovered the power of habits in every area of life.

Together, they break down simple ways to ditch old habits that don’t serve you, build new ones that actually stick, and why tiny changes make the biggest difference. From self-care to money mindset, there’s something here for everyone, whether you’re divorced, thinking about it, or just want to create some positive changes.

Mardi and Ronnie take a dive deep into why habits are so hard to change, how our brains are wired to resist anything new (even if the old ways aren’t serving us), and the secret to building habits that truly stick—hint: it’s all about starting small and making it realistic for your own life. They cover everything from that classic “New Year’s resolution” gym rush (and why it fizzles out) to the ways scrolling on your phone or careless spending can become invisible routines that eat up time and energy.

You’ll definitely pick up practical tips, maybe a few laughs, and feel empowered to make your own shifts. Plus, Ronnie’s got a special freebie for listeners and shares how you can reach out to her if you want more support. So grab your favorite drink, settle in, and let’s get started!

About the Guest:

Ronnie Lo Life Coach (Ronnie Loaiza) – Habits & Celebrative Accountability. Master Certified Professional Coach with a Holistic - Mind/Body/Psyche Connection. Ronnie helps people create natural thus lasting habits – in eating, exercise, self-care, daily work, finances and productivity. Ronnie focuses on a science-backed habit-building process, with easy actions that form into habits that don’t rely on tough discipline, forced motivation, or bouts of willpower! – all of which leave you with the Big-B burnout. Ronnie also works with people’s 'Habitual" or Default way of thinking – You change your thought, and you change your behavior!

This is true for how you behave or react to situations at work, socially, at home, and when alone. Along with coaching, Ronnie loves dancing, movies, strength-training (herself and others) and traveling. Learn more about Ronnie in 'About' at www.ronnielolifecoach.com Also see her method of tailored coaching and how you can form habits that change your life! Certified Professional Life Coach (ICF Accredited) Certified Personal Trainer with Accreditation in Corrective Exercise, Behavior Change, Senior Fitness, Women’s Fitness, Mental Toughness, and Nutrition.

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To connect with Ronnie :

Calendar: https://calendly.com/ronnielolifecoach/zoom-or-phone-analysis

Website: www.ronnielolifecoach.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronnielolifecoach/

Substack: https://substack.com/@ronnieloaiza

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ronnielolifecoach/

About the Host:

Mardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

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Hey everyone, welcome back to The D Shift: Redefining Divorce And Beyond! In this episode, Mardi Winder is joined by her friend and returning guest, Dr. Alana Sharps—a trauma specialist, high-conflict divorce expert, and now, the author of a brand new book that just dropped today!

You’ll hear Dr. Alana Sharps open up about her personal journey out of a toxic marriage and how journaling led her to write her first book, "Was It My Fault?" That honesty opens the door for so many folks to feel less alone in their own struggles. The conversation covers everything from breaking free of abuse (not just physical, but emotional, verbal, and so much more) to what happens after you finally leave—and how to start picking up the pieces.

If you’re dealing with divorce, co-parenting challenges, or trying to understand high-conflict situations, you’ll get loads of practical tips—from self-care and healing practices to setting boundaries and recognizing signs of distress in your kids. Alana shares why it’s so crucial to create a safe, loving space for yourself and your children—even when you can’t control what happens at the other parent’s house.

Whether you’ve been through it yourself or you’re supporting someone else, this episode is packed with insight, validation, and a whole lot of heart. Don’t forget to check out Dr. Alana Sharps’s new book Unbroken Ground (available on Amazon at https://a.co/d/7zoa5z7)for more guidance, and stick around for a really honest, thoughtful chat about redefining your life after divorce.

About the Guest:

Dr. Alana Sharps, founder of SurThrive Tribe, is a 2x International Best-Selling Author, Trauma Specialist, and Certified High-Conflict Divorce Consultant. Her expertise is rooted not only in professional credentials but also in profound personal triumph. Having navigated the complexities of a toxic marriage marked by domestic abuse, Alana emerged as a committed advocate for those facing similar trials. Her transformative journey from victim to empowered survivor fuels her dedication to guiding others through the challenging landscape of domestic strife. As an educator in domestic abuse and trauma healing, Alana brings the same passion from her advocacy into her coaching. She connects the dots between psychology, human behavior, and personal experience, offering a unique and insightful perspective. This approach, combined with her unwavering commitment, creates an enriching and supportive environment where her clients can heal and grow.

For Dr. Alana’s gift: https://www.surthrivetribe.com/free-guide

To connect with Alana:

https://bio.site/alanasharps

About the Host:

Mardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

Connect with Mardi on Social Media:

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@divorcecoach4women

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In this episode of The D Shift: Redefining Divorce And Beyond, host Mardi Winder-Adams is joined by expert Dr. Pamela J. Pine for a frank and sobering discussion on the lasting impact of family conflict and abuse on children. Drawing on Dr. Pamela J. Pine’s decades of work in preventing and mitigating child sexual abuse and addressing adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), the conversation centers on how trauma in the home—whether high, moderate, or even low levels of conflict—can shape a child’s development, mental health, and future wellbeing.

The episode challenges misconceptions around domestic violence and explores the strong correlation between abuse in the home and lifelong consequences, including neurological damage, chronic health issues, and cycles of addiction. Mardi Winder-Adams and Dr. Pamela J. Pine underscore the importance of community awareness, intervention, and support, emphasizing that silence and secrecy can exacerbate harm.

This episode offers not just statistics and facts, but critical guidance for parents and caregivers facing these difficult situations. It provides straightforward language for supporting children, highlights the dangers of staying “for the kids,” and urges listeners to recognize that being proactive and informed can break the cycle of trauma. For anyone seeking to understand, help, or heal, this conversation is both an urgent warning and a compassionate resource.

About the Guest:

Pamela J. Pine, PhD, MPH has been an international health, development, and communication professional throughout her adult life, supporting the lives of poor and otherwise underserved groups, with a two-decade specialty on preventing and mitigating child sexual abuse (CSA) and other adverse childhood experiences (ACEs). She is the Founder/Director of Stop the Silence® - A Department of the Institute on Violence, Abuse and Trauma (IVAT). She is also a professor, best-selling and award-winning author, and a multimedia artist, which she uses in her work to open hearts and minds.

To connect with Dr. Pine:

Website: https://www.ivatcenters.org/stop-the-silence,

Website: https://www.drpamelajpine.com,

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stopcsa,

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrPamelaJPine2/,

Email: pamelap@ivatcenters.org

About the Host:

Mardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

Connect with Mardi on Social Media:

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@divorcecoach4women

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In this powerful episode, host Mardi Winder sits down with speaker, author, and certified somatic trauma-informed coach Darla Ridilla to explore the complex intersection of divorce, toxic relationships, and the journey to self-love and truly finding yourself again after divorce and breakups.

Together, they delve into the real-life challenges high-achieving women face when divorcing narcissistic or high-conflict partners, especially when balancing a professional persona while feeling emotionally exhausted at home. Darla Ridilla shares her own story of her divorces, including her experience with a narcissistic partner, and provides invaluable insight into the process of recognizing abuse, breaking trauma bonds, and rebuilding one's sense of self.

From practical tips on reclaiming independence, like taking yourself out on solo adventures and date nights, to the importance of having grace with yourself during the healing journey, this episode is packed with supportive advice for anyone navigating the aftermath of a toxic relationship. Whether you're questioning your situation, seeking new ways to reconnect with your true self, or simply looking for hope and community, this episode offers empathy, resources, and encouragement to help you thrive on the other side of divorce.

About the Guest:

Darla Ridilla is a certified somatic trauma-informed coach, self love mentor, and relationship expert who helps high-achieving women stop settling in love and start leading in life. As a former executive assistant turned trauma expert, Darla understands what it’s like to appear successful while silently navigating toxic relationship patterns and emotional exhaustion. Her own healing from narcissistic abuse ignited a mission to guide women in breaking free from codependency, regulating their nervous systems, and finally feeling empowered in their relationships. As a speaker, published author and podcast host, she draws on deep somatic wisdom and personal transformation. Darla helps her clients reclaim their worth, set powerful boundaries, and build relationships that align with the strong, capable women they truly are.

For Darla’s gift “Reclaiming You Free Guide”: https://www.highvaluewoman.info/reclaiming-you-guide

To connect with Darla:

Website: https://www.highvaluewoman.info

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550835718631

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/highvaluewoman7/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HighValueWoman-m7w

Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/highvaluewoman7/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darla-ridilla-3179b110/

About the Host:

Mardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

Connect with Mardi on Social Media:

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Divorcecoach4women

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/

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Hey there, and welcome back to The D Shift: Redefining Divorce And Beyond! In this episode, your host Mardi Winder sits down with Charles Jamieson, a seasoned attorney who's spent over 40 years navigating the ups and downs of family and marital law. Based in West Palm Beach, Charles Jamieson isn't only an expert in high-conflict divorce but also specializes in helping individuals protect themselves and their futures through prenuptial and postnuptial agreements.

If you think prenups are only for the rich and famous, think again! Mardi and Charlie are here to set the record straight, explaining how modern prenups can be practical, thoughtful, and even empowering for couples at every stage. Charlie gets real about why these agreements matter, especially for second marriages (spoiler alert: divorce rates are higher the second time around), and how tough money conversations upfront can save you years of headaches and a whole lot of cash down the road.

Together, they dive into some of the most frequently asked questions, like whether prenups can cover things like child custody, what happens if a big inheritance or lottery win comes along, and what you actually need to bring to your attorney to get the process started. They also explore postnups, why some couples choose them after marriage, and how both types of agreements can fit into bigger conversations around aging, illness, or blending families.

About the Guest:

Charles D. Jamieson is the founder and driving force behind The Law Firm of Charles D. Jamieson, P.A., with over 40 years of experience in marital and family law. Beginning his legal career in Maine, he has become a trusted advisor to clients across more than 20 states. Board Certified in Marital and Family Law, Charles is widely recognized for his expertise in high-conflict divorce, parental rights, and child custody matters. A Dartmouth graduate with high honors and a Juris Doctorate from the University of Maine School of Law, he co-chaired the Moot Court Board and competed nationally and internationally. Throughout his career, Charles has championed families, often working alongside mental health, financial, and medical professionals to support his clients’ best interests. Based in West Palm Beach, Florida, he remains a respected figure in the legal community and continues to be a passionate advocate for justice, equity, and compassionate representation.

To connect with Charlie:

Website:www.cjamiesonlaw.com

IG: @Charlesjamiesonlaw

FB: https://www.facebook.com/DivorceWPB/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cjamiesonlaw/

About the Host:

Mardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

Connect with Mardi on Social Media:

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Divorcecoach4women

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@divorcecoach4women

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In this episode, Mardi Winder chats with Myra Salzer, the founder of The Wealth Conservancy, about what really happens when you suddenly come into a bit—or a lot—of money, whether it's from a divorce or an inheritance. Myra Salzer shares her own story of switching careers to financial planning, and how she ended up specializing in helping people who find themselves with unexpected wealth and all the questions that brings.

The conversation opens up about how easy it is to make quick decisions when money first arrives—like splurging on things you never thought you’d buy—and how that can sometimes lead to regrets later on. Myra Salzer breaks down the different stages people often go through, starting from not quite believing what’s happened, to slowly learning how to manage their money, and eventually feeling confident and in control.

They discuss common worries, like wondering how much is safe to spend, sorting out taxes, and most importantly, figuring out who you can trust to guide you. Both Mardi Winder and Myra Salzer highlight how building a good financial team is about more than just numbers; it’s about supporting your values and making sure your money helps you live the life you want.

If the topic hits home for you, you’ll be glad to hear Myra Salzer offers a free consultation and a short coaching program to help you get started. It’s a practical and reassuring look at the ups and downs of managing a windfall and making smart choices for the future.

About the Guest:

Myra Salzer is the founder of The Wealth Conservancy, a team of wealth coaches and financial planners whose clients are responsible for understanding and managing their inheritance or divorce settlement.

To get Myra’s gift: Free consultations for Way into Wealth ™ or financial planning www.TheWealthConservancy.com

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Website: www.thewealthconservancy.com

www.wayintowealth.com

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/myra-salzer

Facebook: www.facebook.com/myrasalzer

About the Host:

Mardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/

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In this episode, Mardi Winder has a really interesting chat with Amanda Steadman, who’s spent more than two decades helping women find confidence and independence after divorce. Amanda brings both her personal story and her professional expertise, talking about how early experiences with family loss shaped her outlook and set her on a path to unravel the connection between our minds and bodies.

She shares honest reflections about navigating a tough breakup herself, after realizing her relationship wasn’t truly making her happy, even if it looked good from the outside. Through a mix of hypnotherapy, NLP, and energy work, Amanda Steadman helps women work through old patterns, like feeling unworthy or stuck, so they can move forward and start fresh. A major takeaway from the conversation is how common it is for women to worry about being “enough” after their relationships end, and the importance of letting go of childhood beliefs that might be holding them back.

Amanda and Mardi touch on how important it is to take a breather after a breakup, figure out what you really want, and stop repeating the same patterns. Amanda encourages listeners to embrace their true selves and reminds everyone that you’re only one thought away from stepping into a new, more confident version of yourself. For those looking for a little extra inspiration, she’s also offering her “Awaken the Goddess Within” meditation for free, which is just a bit of added support to help you on your journey, no matter where you are in the process!

About the Guest:

Uncertain, and stuck. Amanda Steadman helps divorced women reclaim their confidence, rebuild their lives, and create financial independence. With over 26 years of expertise in hypnotherapy, NLP, and energy work, she guides clients from heartbreak and self-doubt to clarity, empowerment, and abundance. Amanda’s **MindGenie Method** accelerates emotional healing and personal growth, helping you release past pain, attract new opportunities, and step into your next chapter with confidence. As an Amazon No.1 bestselling author of *Connect to Authentic Success: 7 Steps to the Destiny You Deserve*, she shares powerful strategies to rediscover your worth, realign with your dreams, and create a fulfilling life—on your terms. Through private sessions, mentoring, and speaking engagements, Amanda provides the mindset and tools to help you thrive after divorce. Ready to start fresh and build the life you deserve? Time for your goddess power to kick in!

To get Amanda’s gift: https://scale.amandasteadman.com/love-home-page

To connect with Amanda:

Web https://www.amandasteadman.com/

LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandasteadman/

YTube https://www.youtube.com/@MindGenieHypnotherapy

Facebook https://www.facebook.com/amanda.steadman1/

Instagram https://www.instagram.com/amandasteadman1/

About the Host:

Mardi Winder is an ICF and BCC Executive and Leadership Coach, Certified Divorce Transition Coach, Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS®) and a Credentialed Distinguished Mediator in Texas. She has worked with women in executive, entrepreneur, and leadership roles, navigating personal, life, and professional transitions. She is the founder of Positive Communication Systems, LLC, and host of Real Divorce Talks, a quarterly series designed to provide education and inspiration to women at all stages of divorce.

Are you interested in learning more about your divorce priorities? Take the quiz "The Divorce Stress Test".

Connect with Mardi on Social Media:

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Divorcecoach4women

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mardiwinderadams/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcecoach4women/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@divorcecoach4women

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