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The Persuasion Occasion

By: Perkins Coie LLP
  • Summary

  • Welcome to the Persuasion Occasion.

    Hosted by Perkins Coie Consumer Products and Services litigators David Biderman and Jasmine Wetherell, each episode features a conversation with noted professionals about achieving success in disputes and negotiations. The discussions are not limited to the legal realm, as success demands incorporating teachings from a breadth of perspectives. David, a baby boomer, and Jasmine, a millennial, enhance the discussions with their multigenerational perspectives.

    Episode guests include negotiators and behavioral scientists. They provide practical advice, real world examples, and thoughtful strategies for surmounting the inevitable hurdles encountered in the worlds of litigation, business, and life.

    At the end of the day, isn’t life a series of disputes and negotiations? Legal professionals, industry leaders, or simply those with curious minds are invited to join David and Jasmine in these explorations.
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Episodes
  • Advocacy In The Music Industry Part 2: ft. Jason Blume
    Jul 16 2024
    In part two with Jason Blume, we delve into the elements of a successful and persuasive song. Jason shares invaluable insights and practical advice that can translate from songwriting to any arena. Jason emphasizes that while good songs are plentiful, what sets successful ones apart is their unique angle and fresh approach. He also touches on the importance of song structure, explaining that most hit songs follow a few familiar structures as do persuasive arguments, necessary for effectively communicating a message to listeners.
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    37 mins
  • Advocacy In The Music Industry Part 1: ft. Jason Blume
    Jul 2 2024
    Songwriter and instructor Jason Blume joins us to share his struggles and successes in negotiation within the music industry. He emphasizes the importance of persistence, networking, and collaboration. In discussing songwriting’s interplay between creativity and business, he highlights the need for songwriters to understand both aspects of the industry. We also dig into the key elements of persuasive songwriting, including melody, repetition, and relatable lyrics.
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    44 mins
  • Behavioral Economics and Persuasion Featuring Dan Ariely
    Jun 11 2024
    On this show, Dan Ariely, Duke University professor and noted author, discusses behavioral psychology and persuasion, the dangers of misbelief, and the growing phenomenon of identity polarization in the digital age. Dan shares how misbelief can lead to a distorted view of reality, where everything is seen through the lens of a particular belief or perspective. We also dive into the significance of clear and concise communication in legal settings and the importance of navigating difficult conversations with empathy and respect.

    Dan is the James B. Duke Professor of Psychology & Behavioral Economics at Duke University and founded the Center for Advanced Hindsight. Dan also co-created the film documentary (Dis)Honesty: The Truth About Lies and wrote three-time New York Times bestsellers: Predictably Irrational, The Upside of Irrationality, and The Honest Truth About Dishonesty. His latest book, Misbelief: What Makes Rational People Believe Irrational Things, discusses the distorted lens through which people begin to view the world, reason about the world, and then describe the world to others.

    “When we are stressed, we need a story with a villain - and that story gives us a sense of control.” - Dan Ariely

    This week on The Persuasion Ocassion:
    • How misinformation spreads and affects trust in society
    • Why misbelief can lead to a distorted view of reality, where everything is seen through the lens of a particular belief or perspective
    • Dan explains how stress can lead to misbeliefs and a desire for control
    • Why we have low resilience due to decreased time with friends and workplace social isolation
    • What the "funnel of misbelief" is and how it affects our psychology
    • How social media can both facilitate and exacerbate the polarization of beliefs
    • Why it’s so important to address misinformation and polarization and the potential consequences for democracy and society if we don’t
    • Why the legal system needs to catch up with new forms of communication and deterrent mechanisms in the digital age
    • Dan shares his story of growing half a beard after being injured 70% of his body and why it inspired him to explore behavioral economics
    • The illusion of explanatory depth, where people often overestimate their knowledge
    • Why we should seek out diverse perspectives and engage in constructive dialogue with people from different backgrounds and beliefs

    Connect with Dan Ariely:
    • Dan Ariely

    Connect with David and Jasmine:
    • David T. Biderman at Perkins Coie
    • Jasmine Wetherell at Perkins Coie
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    59 mins

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