Episodios

  • S2E17: Finding Your Sacred Ground So You Can Lead With Authenticity with Katrina Bourke
    Jul 29 2024

    In this episode of the Well-Led Schools Podcast, we sit down with Katrina Bourke to explore the importance of leading authentically in education. With over 20 years of experience as a teacher and school leader, Katrina emphasises the significance of human skills in leadership. Authentic leadership, marked by self-awareness, vulnerability, and groundedness, is crucial in Education today. Katrina shares her journey and insights on how leaders can cultivate these qualities to create more connected and effective teams.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The role of self-awareness in shaping us as leaders
    • The capabilities that leaders need in education today
    • How we can use these skills to become more authentic and grounded leaders and teams
    • Katrina’s Authentic Leader Framework for mapping your sacred ground in four steps
    • How do we know if we’re truly showing up authentically?
    • What it means to be vulnerable as a school leader and how to get the balance right

    About Katrina:

    Katrina Bourke has over 20 years of experience in education as a teacher and school leader. Now a leadership coach, speaker, and author, she specialises in helping leaders discover their Sacred Ground. Her approach goes beyond traditional coaching, empowering leaders to lead with grounded confidence. Katrina offers a unique blend of personal and professional development that enables leaders to show up as the best human and leader they can be, no matter the circumstances. Through her journey of self-discovery and overcoming challenges like setting boundaries and perfectionism, Katrina has learned that we all have untapped potential within us. She believes in the power of authentic leadership and is committed to helping others cultivate courage, vulnerability, curiosity and reflection in their roles.

    Links and Resources:

    Explore Our Well-Led Schools Partnership Program: https://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/

    Article by Tasha Eurich: What Self-Awareness Really is (and How to Cultivate It)

    Article by Herminia Ibarra: The Authenticity Paradox

    Thank you so much for listening. I’m so honoured that you’re here and would be so grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple Podcasts or on your preferred podcast app, that way we can inspire and educate even more people together.

    Connect with Katrina via:

    Her Website: katrinabourke.com

    On Facebook: www.facebook.com/katrinabourkeleadership

    On Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/katrinabourke/

    Connect with me via:

    My website http://adriennehornby.com.au

    Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/

    Email hello@adriennehornby.com.au

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  • S2E16: Building Resilience and Preventing Burnout in Education with Meg Durham
    Jul 22 2024

    Educator burnout is becoming increasingly common, to the point where many celebrate being so busy as if it's a badge of honor. However, this relentless pace and lack of rest can lead to significant mental health challenges. In this episode, we emphasize the importance of taking a step back and building supports to help us feel resilient and well.

    Join us as we sit down with Meg Durham, a former primary and secondary teacher who is now on a mission to share practical, enriching wellbeing education with teachers, principals, and schools across Australia. With more than half of all Australian teachers experiencing high levels of anxiety, Meg is leading a nationwide conversation to debunk myths about wellbeing and uncover what educators truly need to avoid burnout.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • The importance of mental health support and finding the right psychologist
    • Obvious and not-so-obvious signs that we might be at risk of burnout
    • Causes of burnout we may not be aware of or noticing
    • Meg’s 5 P’s of the pressures we put on ourselves which can lead to burnout
    • Practical steps we can take to address these pressures
    • 5 questions to ask yourself to gauge if you’re at risk of burnout
    • The differences between being well and thriving
    • What it means to feel truly rested and replenished

    About Meg

    After working as a primary and secondary teacher for more than a decade, Meg Durham is on a mission to share practical, enriching wellbeing education with teachers, principals, and schools across Australia. As a speaker, Meg offers a unique blend of practical strategies backed by humor, research, and lived experience—the sum of thousands of hours talking to teachers and living this stuff. Her goal is to help teachers prioritize their wellbeing and thrive.

    With more than half of all Australian teachers experiencing high levels of anxiety, Meg is leading a nationwide conversation that cracks open the myths about wellbeing and gets to the bottom of what teachers need to avoid burnout. Meg holds a Bachelor of Physical Education and a Master of Education in Student Wellbeing.



    Links and Resources:

    Waitlist for the Well-Led Schools Partnership: adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/

    Thank you so much for listening. I’m so honoured that you’re here and would be so grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple Podcasts or on your preferred podcast app, that way we can inspire and educate even more people together.

    Connect with Meg via:

    Her podcast: The School of Wellbeing https://openmindeducation.com/podcast/

    Her Website: openmindeducation.com

    On Instagram: www.instagram.com/megdurham__

    On LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/meg-durham/?originalSubdomain=au

    Connect with me via:

    My website: adriennehornby.com.au

    Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/

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  • S2E15: How to Step into a Leadership Role Without the Official Title with Karen Caswell
    Jul 16 2024

    In this episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with Karen Caswell, an experienced senior teacher, wellbeing enthusiast, blogger and podcaster.

    Join us for an honest and vulnerable conversation where we reflect on the essential qualities of effective leadership and explore the concept of leading without an official title, emphasising the importance of relational and interactional leadership approaches. Karen shares her insights on how to bring people together with a common purpose, build trust, and influence others even without a formal leadership role.

    In the episode, we cover:

    • What it means to lead without an official title
    • How we can apply a relational and interactional leadership approach to bring people together with a common purpose
    • Strategies to effectively influence and motivate others when you don’t have a leadership title
    • The best ways to establish trust with those you work with
    • Why your mindset might be blocking you from becoming the leader you have the potential to be
    • How a Positive Psychology approach can help you refocus from obsessing on your shortcomings to valuing your strengths
    • The three areas of personal development to focus on if you want to enhance your leadership skills

    About Karen:

    Karen Caswell is a passionate educational leader known for her collaborative approach spanning over a 28-year career. As an Early Childhood trained teacher, she has been privileged to work in a variety of roles and settings, and is currently an Experienced Senior Teacher and Barna Jarjum Champion at a school in Logan, Brisbane, Queensland. Karen’s influence extends beyond her classroom through a national and global professional learning network, and she is a writer and the creator of the Authenticity in Edu Blog as well as the host of the Inspiration, Influence and Impact Podcast. Karen was the recipient of an Educational Leadership Commendation Award at the 2023 ACEL Queensland Branch Awards.

    Links and Resources:

    Explore Our Well-Led Schools Partnership Program: https://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/

    Read Karen’s Recent Article published in the Teacher Learning Network Journal on Middle Leadership: Beyond Titles: The Transformative Power of Interactional Leadership

    https://www.karencaswell.com/post/beyond-titles-the-transformative-power-of-interactional-leadership

    Thank you so much for listening. I’m so honoured that you’re here and would be so grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple Podcasts or on your preferred podcast app, that way we can inspire and educate even more people together.

    Connect with Karen via:

    Her Website - https://www.karencaswell.com

    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-caswell-ba12491b4/

    Instagram - @ authenticity_in_edu

    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/kcasw1

    X - https://twitter.com/kcasw1

    Connect with me via:

    My website adriennehornby.com.au

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  • S2E14: Embracing MESSY Leadership and the Power of Coaching in Education with Rosie Connor
    Jun 17 2024
    In this episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with Rosie Connor, a leader in the field of education and not-for-profit leadership development. With over twenty years of experience, Rosie has dedicated her career to empowering leaders to excel and make a significant impact in their organisations. As the founder of BTS Spark, Rosie has pioneered innovative approaches to leadership coaching and development, specifically tailored for educators and not-for-profit leaders. Join us as we explore her groundbreaking work, the transformative concept of MESSY Leadership, and practical strategies for creating a thriving, future-focused leadership culture. In this episode, we cover: The work that Rosie is doing through her educational leadership coaching company, BTS SparkHow long it really takes to see a transformation at an individual and school levelThe value of seeking feedback from colleagues and peers in order to grow and evolve your leadershipThe importance of delegating work and empowering others to grow by challenging themselves with new responsibilities or projectsWhat inspired Rosie’s book “Embracing MESSY Leadership”Understanding the acronym MESSY (Meaning Making, Emotional Connection, Seeing the Future, Seizing Momentum, and Your Presence)Mistakes that “nice” leaders frequently make and tips for creating a trusting team culture without becoming an authoritarian leaderWhy leaders should prioritise coaching opportunities both for themselves and their whole staffOne thing leaders or aspiring leaders can do today to begin embracing MESSY leadership About Rosie Rosie Connor is the founder of BTS Spark, a not-for-profit initiative within the global leadership consultancy. BTS Spark is dedicated to providing affordable and targeted leadership development and coaching specifically tailored for education and not-for-profit leaders. Their programs combine a rich curriculum of 33 leadership mindsets with one-to-one coaching, workshops, group coaching, and online learning, ensuring a comprehensive approach to leadership development. With a psychology degree from Cambridge and an MBA from Henley Management College, Rosie’s credentials are impeccable. She led one of Tony Blair’s most successful Education Action Zones, earning an ‘outstanding’ rating from independent school inspectors. Her expertise has been sought after by prestigious organisations such as the National College for School Leadership and the Innovation Unit in the UK, and the Australian Institute for Teaching and School Leadership (AITSL) for the launch of the Australian Principal Standard. Rosie has played a pivotal role in designing and overseeing leadership development programs for over 5,000 education leaders worldwide. Her work with BTS Spark reflects a commitment to high-quality standards and ongoing professional learning for their global coach community. Links and Resources: Explore Our Well-Led Schools Partnership Program:https://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/ Dive into Liz Wiseman’s work on Multipliers: https://thewisemangroup.com/books/multipliers/ Thank you so much for listening. I’m so honoured that you’re here and would be so grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple Podcasts or on your preferred podcast app, that way we can inspire and educate even more people together. Connect with Rosie: On LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rosie-connor-33502677/?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2F&originalSubdomain=au Her Website: https://btsspark.org/ Check out her book ‘Embracing MESSY Leadership’: https://btsspark.org/en-au/messyleadership Download the MESSY Leadership Toolkit: https://mailchi.mp/btsspark.org/au-messytoolkit Connect with BTS Spark on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/bts-spark/ Subscribe to BTS Spark on YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCX4s-LEQYPqcLnYMU-Csbsg Connect with me via: My website adriennehornby.com.au Linkedin www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/ Email hello@adriennehornby.com.au See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  • S2E13: The Value and Importance of Mastering Effective Staff Consultation with Dr. Paul Teys
    May 29 2024

    In this episode of the Well-Led Schools Podcast, we welcome back Dr. Paul Teys, an expert in educational leadership with over four decades of experience. Following his discussion on the foundations of effective educational leadership earlier this season, Paul returns to explore the vital topic of staff consultation.

    Effective consultation is key to building trust, fostering collaboration, and enhancing engagement within a school community. Join us as Paul shares how his leadership has evolved, strategies for managing resistant staff, and expert techniques for fostering a more inclusive and dynamic school culture through effective consultation practices.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • How Paul’s leadership has evolved since his first appointment as a school leader
    • How Paul has approached managing staff and teachers who are resistant to feedback
    • What effective consultation with staff entails
    • Approaches and tools for consulting with staff
    • The key benefits of consulting with staff and involving them in conversations
    • Common mistakes that leaders can make when consulting with their people
    • The differences between consultation, collaboration and cooperation
    • Expert strategies for enhancing your consultative practices as a leader



    About Paul

    With a career spanning over four decades, Dr. Paul is an expert in the educational leadership space. His journey of 36 years in middle and executive leadership roles, crowned by 24 transformative years as Principal across diverse schools in three states, has shaped the educational experiences of many students and educators.

    Paul‘s impact stems from his deep commitment to excellence in leadership and his commitment to fostering the growth and success of schools, principals, and their teams.

    As a mentor and coach, Dr Paul empowers educational leaders by harnessing their unique strengths, nurturing their potential, and guiding them through the complexities of leadership in dynamic learning environments. His strategic approach to professional development is tailored to the needs of executive teams and leaders, ensuring that their growth translates into tangible results for their schools and communities.

    Dr Paul also works in executive leadership recruitment as an Associate of Slade Group. With insight from living the experience himself, he excels in recruiting executive leaders and principals for schools, offering a depth of understanding and a tailored approach that sets him apart as the go-to expert in educational leadership placements.

    Links and Resources:

    Explore our 12-month Well-Led Schools Partnership Program adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/

    Thank you so much for listening. I’m so honoured that you’re here and would be so grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple Podcasts or on your preferred podcast app, that way we can inspire and educate even more people together.

    Connect with Paul via:

    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/paulteys/?originalSubdomain=au

    His website: www.paulteys.com

    Listen to his podcast: Applied School Leadership Podcast https://www.paulteys.com/asl-podcast/

    Connect with me via:

    My website http://adriennehornby.com.au

    Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/

    Email hello@adriennehornby.com.au

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  • S2E12: How to Establish a Culture of Trust and Psychological Safety in Schools with Corey Tavella
    May 20 2024
    In this episode of the Well-Led Schools Podcast, we welcomed returning guest Corey Tavella, principal of Thomas More College in South Australia— a large co-ed school with almost 1,100 students that has grown over 30% since his time as principal. Corey recently completed his Master's degree, focusing on measuring effective school leadership using an autoethnographic method. In this method, he acted as both a researcher and used himself as evidence. As such, he’s had much time to reflect on his leadership approach from the time he first became deputy principal to now, with six years as principal under his belt. This episode's conversation centers on effective leadership approaches, with an emphasis on building and maintaining trust to cultivate a psychologically safe work environment. In this episode, we cover: The significance of knowing yourself, your values, and what you stand for and how that can guide everyday choices and decisionsThe differences between an authoritative and authoritarian leadership approachCorey’s honest reflections on who he was as a leader when he first started and how his approach has evolved since thenWhy Corey values presence as a leader and how he integrates it as a guiding principle in his schoolThe difficult challenge of establishing but also maintaining a high-performing executive team and school culture despite the turnover of leaders and staffWhat an environment of trust looks, sounds and feels like in a schoolCommon barriers to establishing and maintaining trust in schoolsThe importance of speaking up to the right people when you are unhappy with something at workWays to sustain trust as a collectiveHow principals can support new leaders and middle leaders to develop their knowledge and skills in effective leadership and trust-building About Corey: Corey Tavella is currently the Principal of Thomas More College in South Australia, a relatively large 7-12 school of almost 1100 students from 7-12 (co-ed). This is his sixth year as Principal, having been a Deputy Principal at two schools, one all-boys and one all-girls. Corey has recently completed his masters degree with his main research focussing on measuring effective school leadership using an autoethnographic method where he acted as both researcher and evidence, given his focus on was measuring the effectiveness of his first five years of Principalship. One of his key tenets of leadership is presence, which, he believes, lends itself well to staff well-being. By aiming to be present for his staff, he wants to ensure they all know they are heard, valued, cared for, and respected. Corey has been in education for 24 years, and these last six years are the first in which he has not taught students. Links and Resources: Thank you so much for listening. I’m so honoured that you’re here and would be so grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple Podcasts or on your preferred podcast app, that way we can inspire and educate even more people together. Explore the Well-Led Schools Partnership Program: adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/ Listen to S1 Ep. 7 With Corey Tavella: The Guiding Principles For Leading Your School With Wellbeing In Mind adriennehornby.com.au/the-guiding-principles-for-leading-your-school-with-wellbeing-in-mind-with-corey-tavella-episode-7/ Connect with Corey: Coreys work with his Executive Team’s Leadership statement via LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7027146166421114880/ On Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-tavella-084160173/ Connect with me via: My website adriennehornby.com.au Linkedin www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/ Email hello@adriennehornby.com.au See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  • S2E11: Using Positive Psychology to Cultivate Flourishing Schools With Chris Daicos
    Apr 16 2024
    In this episode, I had the pleasure of diving into the world of Positive Psychology with our guest, Chris Daicos, an experienced educator and consultant with over 40 years of experience in the field of education. Chris's expertise lies in leveraging Positive Psychology interventions to foster personal and organisational flourishing. As she eloquently explains, Positive Psychology isn't merely about putting on a happy face or ignoring challenges; it's a paradigm shift from problem-focused to solution-focused thinking. Unlike traditional psychology, which often fixates on dissecting problems and finding ways to mitigate them, Positive Psychology seeks to identify moments of success, strength, and resilience. Through this lens, Chris shares insights on how schools can adopt Positive Psychology approaches to enhance wellbeing for students, staff, and the wider community. Join us as we explore the transformative potential of Positive Psychology in education and its practical applications for creating thriving school environments. In this episode, we cover: What Positive Psychology is and how it differs from traditional psychologyWhy schools should adopt positive psychology approaches when looking to enhance wellbeing at their schoolsThe PERMA(H) model and its componentsHow a strengths exploration initiative can improve wellbeing across most areas of the PERMA(H) modelThe importance of communication and unifying the team with a clear vision and expectations About the Guest Chris Daicos is a dedicated advocate for personal and organisational flourishing, leveraging her extensive background as a trained teacher, social worker, and facilitator. As a foundation graduate of Australia’s first Master Applied Positive Psychology program, Chris seamlessly combines her expertise in pedagogy with evidence-based practices to deliver tailored professional learning to leaders, teachers and parents on a range of topics including Positive Psychology, leadership, people management, parental education and more. With over 40 years of experience in Education, 20 of which were spent consulting with schools, Chris specilises in implementing Positive Psychology interventions to enhance wellbeing in diverse contexts. With a focus on practical application and real-life scenarios, Chris's workshops are valued for their effectiveness in promoting confidence, engagement, and satisfaction among participants. Her professional portfolio includes teaching Master's courses on wellbeing and positive psychology at Melbourne University, Victoria University, Australian Catholic University, and Deakin University. She has also spent three years working at Headspace, training professionals to identify and respond to young people at risk. Links and Resources: Blog Article: The PERMAH Model for Workplace Wellbeing adriennehornby.com.au/the-permah-model-for-workplace-wellbeing/ Waitlist for the Well-Led Schools Partnership: adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/ Identify your strengths with the VIA Character Strengths Survey: www.viacharacter.org/ Research Mentioned in The Episode: Friedrich and Jane Dutton - High-quality connections/positive relationships: https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/four_ways_to_create_high_quality_connections_at_work https://positiveorgs.bus.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/HighQualityConnections.pdf Barbara Fredrickson - Positive emotions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3122271/ Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi - Concept of flow: https://positivepsychology.com/mihaly-csikszentmihalyi-father-of-flow/#:~:text=In%20Csikszentmihalyi's%20words%2C%20flow%20is,doing%20it%E2%80%9D%20(1990). https://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/history-of-happiness/mihaly-csikszentmihalyi/ Bruce Tuckman’s model of team development: https://hr.mit.edu/learning-topics/teams/articles/stages-development https://www.wcupa.edu/coral/tuckmanStagesGroupDelvelopment.aspx#:~:text=These%20stages%20are%20commonly%20known,more%20collaborative%20or%20shared%20leadership. https://www.mindtools.com/abyj5fi/forming-storming-norming-and-performing https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1965-12187-001 Viviane Robinson - Open to learning conversations: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Viviane-Robinson/publication/267411000_Open-to-learning_Conversations_Background_Paper_Introduction_to_Open-to-learning_Conversations/links/54d7cb6c0cf2970e4e755956/Open-to-learning-Conversations-Background-Paper-Introduction-to-Open-to-learning-Conversations.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Viviane-Robinson/publication/242493851_School_Leadership_and_Student_Outcomes_Identifying_What_Works_and_Why_Best_Evidence_Synthesis_Iteration_BES/links/0046352c76ef753faa000000/School-Leadership-and-Student-Outcomes-Identifying-What-Works-and-Why-Best-Evidence-Synthesis-Iteration-BES.pdf Michelle McQuaid - Care Framework: https://www.michellemcquaid.com/can-you-create-a-culture-of-care/ ...
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  • S2E10: Strategies to Support Parents and Carers to Cultivate Connection With Their Children with Kathy Bowers
    Apr 9 2024

    In this episode, I had the honour of chatting with Kathy Bowers, a parenting coach with over four decades of experience working with children and their families.

    Why a parenting coach on a teacher wellbeing podcast? Much of our work with students relies on the relationships we have with parents. In this partnership, they can often lean on us for advice for ways to connect with and engage their students. We don;t always have the answers as the classroom and school environment is very different to home.

    Kathy's approach is deeply rooted in the belief that effective communication is the cornerstone of successful parenting. Through her guidance, parents are empowered to navigate communication challenges and foster meaningful connections with their children. She emphasises the importance of presence and active listening, helping parents develop the skills necessary to build rapport and trust with their children.

    Join us as we explore Kathy's wealth of knowledge and experience, gaining invaluable tools and perspectives to enhance parenting practices and promote harmony within our families, but also in classrooms.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Common challenges parents face in parenting
    • The importance of communication and being present to build rapport and trust with your children
    • The value of bridging the gap between our children’s home and school life
    • What parents can do to develop their communication skills at home
    • Steps parents can take to create routines and boundaries at home to establish expectations and respect
    • Strategies for communicating and maintaining a relationship with your independence-seeking teen
    • Effective ways to work with children and young people to achieve a desired outcome without the use of harsh discipline

    About Kathy:

    Kathy Bowers is a parenting coach with over 40 years experience. She works with families and supports parents on all things parenting, behavioural difficulties and the importance of communication.

    Kathy’s journey spans more than 20 years as a family practitioner in social care, where she hones her expertise in understanding and addressing the complex dynamics of family life. Recognising the need for positive change and armed with a wealth of knowledge, Kathy transitioned to coaching parents and individuals where she now

    focuses on supporting parents to find their own solutions to overcome communication and parenting difficulties aiming to Improve their relationship with their children and ensure harmony & balance are restored.

    Links and Resources:

    Student Management Pilot Program: adriennehornby.com.au/behaviour-pilot/

    Download Kathy’s FREE parenting ebook: Download here

    Connect with Kathy via:

    Her website: www.life-change-coaching.co.uk

    Email: kathy@life-change-coaching.co.uk

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/kathybowers50/

    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-bowers-43555b176/

    Facebook: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083422956915

    Thank you so much for listening. I’m so honoured that you’re here and would be so grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple Podcasts or on your preferred podcast app, that way we can inspire and educate even more people together.

    Connect with me via:

    My website: adriennehornby.com.au

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