Episodios

  • Reimagining Growth Marketing Strategies for Today’s Brands
    Jun 26 2025
    Dots Oyebolu’s latest guest is Gaetano Nino DiNardi, Growth Advisor and former marketing leader at Pipedrive, Sales Hacker (now Outreach) and Nextiva.Gaetano shares his unconventional journey from music producer to sought-after marketing strategist. He dives into his early SEO experiments, the power of inbound marketing and how focus — not scale — is the secret to long-term success. With a no-fluff, hustle-forward philosophy, Gaetano outlines how most SaaS companies lack true differentiation and why success often comes from execution rather than positioning. Key Takeaways:(01:31) Gaetano shares how his blogging background and passion for SEO launched his unexpected career in marketing.(05:29) Companies usually fall into two categories: those that know what to do but need help executing, and those that need help figuring out the strategy.(07:31) Focused, phased marketing efforts yield better results than attempting to tackle everything at once.(10:33) With so many SaaS brands blending, standing out often comes down to creating stronger content, bolder creative and sharper execution.(13:59) Consistency is critical in marketing success; historical examples are good for showing how competitors have pulled ahead.(18:53) Traditional demand capture tactics, such as biased comparison tables, backfire; instead, highlight genuine value.(24:30) Conversion paths often span multiple touchpoints, and marketers must evaluate the full journey, not just isolated campaigns.(30:00) Community-driven spaces like Docebo’s customer hub play a key role in customer retention and advocacy.(38:42) Using customer data to target competitors' audiences through tools like LinkedIn and data platforms is a powerful growth tactic.Resources Mentioned:Gaetano Nino DiNardihttps://www.linkedin.com/in/officialg/Pipedrive | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/pipedrive/Outreach | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/outreach-saas/Nextiva | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/nextiva/SEMRushhttps://www.semrush.com/OfficialGaetano.com | Websitehttps://officialgaetano.comDocebo Communityhttps://community.docebo.com/Insightful Links:https://www.bain.com/insights/reimagining-marketing-during-recessionary-times/ https://www.divisional.co/blog/tips-to-optimize-growth-marketing-strategy https://www.dashly.io/blog/demand-generation-vs-growth-marketing/ https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/growth-marketing-and-sales/our-insights/reimagining-marketing-in-the-next-normal Thanks for listening to the “Marketing Leadership” podcast, brought to you by Listen Network. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation. We appreciate the enthusiasm and support from our community. Currently, we are not accepting new guest interview requests as we focus on our existing lineup. We will announce when we reopen for new submissions. In the meantime, feel free to explore our past episodes and stay tuned for updates on future opportunities.#PodcastMarketing #PerformanceMarketing #BrandMarketing #MarketingStrategy #MarketingIntelligence #GTM #B2BMarketing #D2CMarketing #PodcastAds
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  • LinkedIn Ads Is the Secret Weapon for B2B Customer Growth
    Jun 20 2025

    Joining Dots Oyebolu on this episode is AJ Wilcox, Founder of B2Linked, the world’s first LinkedIn Ads agency. AJ shares how he went from SEO and Google Ads to managing the largest LinkedIn Ads account globally, and why LinkedIn has become the most effective paid channel for reaching high-value B2B decision-makers.

    

    Key Takeaways:


    (01:25) AJ shares how he transitioned from SEO and Google Ads into becoming a LinkedIn Ads specialist.

    (01:44) AJ reveals the surprising early success that led him to go “all in” on LinkedIn Ads.

    (04:23) Luxury brands like Rolex are increasingly using LinkedIn Ads to target high earners with precise business demographics.

    (06:42) AJ breaks down a modern, profitable B2B LinkedIn Ads strategy that prioritizes brand marketing and video.

    (06:52) Video retargeting on LinkedIn allows brands to create emotional, sequential interactions that build trust.

    (11:02) Despite high CPCs, LinkedIn delivers better ROI than Facebook when looking at qualified leads and conversions.

    (15:14) LinkedIn’s built-in targeting often eliminates the need for lookalike audiences.

    (22:12) Video views are a more valuable KPI than clicks. A 45-second view can often deliver more impact than a website visit.

    (27:14) Over 50% of AJ’s leads now come from podcast listeners, proving the impact of consistent, value-driven audio content.


    Resources Mentioned:


    AJ Wilcox

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilcoxaj/


    B2Linked | LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/b2linked/


    B2Linked | Website

    https://b2linked.com


    LinkedIn Ads Fanatics community

    https://fanatics.b2linked.com/


    The LinkedIn Ads podcast

    https://b2linked.com/podcast



    Insightful Links:


    https://fanatics.b2linked.com/


    https://www.advance-metrics.com/en/blog/linkedin-ads-your-b2b-magic-bullet/


    https://www.marketingprofs.com/podcasts/2019/41263/linkedin-ads-aj-wilcox-marketing-smarts


    https://directiveconsulting.com/blog/b2b-linkedin-strategy-saas





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  • Business Intelligence Strategies for Paid Media Revenue Streams
    Jun 12 2025

    Dots Oyebolu and Cory Henke, Founder and CEO of Variable Media, discuss modern paid media intelligence. Cory shares insights from his journey via major agencies and platforms to build a data-first paid media agency. He unpacks the challenges and philosophies around attribution and campaign measurement and explains how business intelligence tools like Power BI help brands unlock deeper visibility into what really drives performance.


    Key Takeaways:


    (01:20) Cory’s marketing journey.

    (04:36) Marketers who rely solely on in-platform data miss the bigger picture — merging CRM, web analytics and ad platforms reveals deeper insights.

    (07:51) Cory believes that attribution is unsolvable because great outcomes stem from many variables.

    (09:50) In a dynamic ad landscape, Cory emphasizes having a conservative projection and a flexible testing strategy.

    (11:16) For new brands, organic growth should precede paid media — proving demand without ad spend is key to long-term success.

    (13:03) Attribution models are biased by platform incentives; YouTube, for instance, creates halo effects that platforms often credit to search.

    (16:28) Cory’s team customizes attribution by extracting campaign data from multiple platforms, merging it via Power BI for clearer performance storytelling.

    (21:31) CPM is Cory’s favorite marketing metric — unlike other KPIs, it reveals raw costs and helps evaluate the efficiency of reach, regardless of engagement.

    (27:42) Staying top of mind and testing new formats is key as digital advertising continues to evolve beyond traditional performance metrics.


    Resources Mentioned:


    Cory Henke

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/coryhenke/


    Variable Media | LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/variable-media/


    Variable Media | Website

    https://variable.media/


    Power BI

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/power-platform/products/power-bi


    Cory Henke on Twitter

    https://twitter.com/CoryHenke



    Insightful Links:


    https://online.mason.wm.edu/blog/data-analytics-in-digital-marketing


    https://www.akkio.com/post/business-intelligence-in-marketing


    https://www.netsuite.com/portal/resource/articles/erp/business-intelligence-strategy.shtml





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  • Your Outbound Email Marketing B2C Go-To-Market Solution
    Jun 5 2025

    Dots Oyebolu chats with Larry Kim, Founder and CEO of Customers.ai.

    Larry shares his groundbreaking approach to go-to-market strategies in the B2C space, challenging the dominance of ad-heavy models and introducing a scalable, intent-driven framework for outbound email marketing.


    From the evolution of PPC to hyper-personalized campaigns powered by AI, this conversation explores how marketers can rethink engagement, improve deliverability and expand their reach without sacrificing relevance or compliance.


    Key Takeaways:


    (02:11) Customers.ai identifies website visitors using AI for outbound marketing.

    (03:53) The future of marketing is hyper-personalized and AI-driven, with individualized video sales letters and content.

    (07:39) B2C companies are now facing ROI challenges in digital ads due to skyrocketing CPMs.

    (09:02) Intent-driven email marketing can provide higher quality leads for B2C businesses at a fraction of ad costs.

    (16:17) “Intent-driven outbounding” is a new category blending the best of inbound and outbound strategies.

    (18:41) Three strategic pillars are dynamic list generation, deliverability tools and email list hygiene.

    (33:18) AI-powered creative customization tailors messages to user behavior, identity and journey.

    (40:17) Customers.ai restores first-party data pipelines, overcoming modern browser and privacy restrictions.

    (46:11) CAN-SPAM monitors compliance in the US but strategic discomfort boosts innovation.


    Resources Mentioned:


    Larry Kim

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrykim/


    Customers.ai | LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/customersai/


    Customers.ai | Website

    https://customers.ai



    Insightful Links:


    https://customers.ai/blog


    https://userlist.com/blog/b2c-saas-email-marketing/


    https://www.business2community.com/brandviews/marketo/leverage-social-intent-data-email-marketing-01818638


    https://martech.org/4-qualities-of-an-intent-driven-marketing-automation-email-program/





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    We appreciate the enthusiasm and support from our community. Currently, we are not accepting new guest interview requests as we focus on our existing lineup. We will announce when we reopen for new submissions. In the meantime, feel free to explore our past episodes and stay tuned for updates on future opportunities.




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  • What It Takes To Build Diverse and Inclusive Marketing Strategies
    May 29 2025

    Dots Oyebolu welcomes Michelle Ngome, Founder and President of the African-American Marketing Association (AAMA), in this episode.


    Michelle shares her journey from finance to marketing, emphasizing the importance of integrated strategies that blend traditional and digital efforts. She unpacks the evolution of inclusive marketing, the challenges and triumphs of building a diverse marketing community and why empathy and representation must go beyond surface-level diversity.


    Key Takeaways:


    (01:19) Michelle transitions from finance to a 15-year marketing career focused on small businesses and thought leadership.

    (02:31) A call for holistic representation — beyond token visuals — in inclusive marketing.

    (04:08) The African-American Marketing Association’s membership is split between entrepreneurs and corporate marketers.

    (05:28) The Marketing for the Culture Summit fosters community among Black marketers from across North America.

    (10:27) Younger generations demand social responsibility and hold brands more accountable than ever.

    (18:09) Michelle outlines her five-point framework for inclusive marketing.

    (24:56) Brands should expand existing offerings to new communities instead of creating entirely new products.

    (33:11) Internal audits and strategic planning ensure DEI efforts are authentic and sustainable.

    (35:17) Annual reports and competitor research offer hidden insights for shaping impactful DEI marketing strategy.

    (46:35) Always include representative voices in decision-making to ensure cultural campaigns are guided authentically.


    Resources Mentioned:


    Michelle Ngome

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/mngome/


    The African-American Marketing Association (AAMA) | LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/african-american-marketing-association/


    Michelle Ngome | Website

    https://www.michellengome.com/


    Insightful Links:


    https://all-in.withgoogle.com/strategy/

    https://www.texthelp.com/en-gb/resources/digital-accessibility-guide/inclusive-marketing/

    https://advertising.amazon.com/en-ca/library/guides/inclusive-marketing

    https://beinclusivethecardgame.com/

    https://www.aa-ma.org/


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  • Why Podcast Ads Should Be Part of Your Marketing Strategy
    May 22 2025

    Join Dots Oyebolu as he speaks to Heather Osgood, Founder of True Native Media Podcast Advertising, a podcast representation agency that specializes in connecting mid-level shows with advertisers.


    Heather shares the growing value of podcast advertising in modern marketing strategies. She explores the unique power of host-read ads, the intentional nature of podcast audiences, and how brands can benefit from targeted campaigns even without producing a podcast themselves.


    Key Takeaways:


    (03:45) Host-read ads build trust and drive strong purchase intent.

    (05:05) Podcast listeners are highly engaged, consuming up to 80% of episodes.

    (07:04) Small, niche B2B audiences can be very effective for advertisers.

    (08:18) Define the podcast’s purpose before pursuing monetization.

    (10:28) Business, marketing and finance podcasts perform well in ad sales.

    (16:02) Think about the size of the audience you’re targeting.

    (25:56) Promo codes, landing pages and pixel tracking help measure ROI.

    (28:41) Podcast ads enhance other media performance through a multi-channel marketing mix.

    (29:26) Podcast ads boost channel synergy, tripling video performance when run together.


    Resources Mentioned:


    Heather Osgood

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/podcastadvertising/


    True Native Media Podcast Advertising | LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/tnma/


    True Native Media Podcast Advertising | Website

    https://truenativemedia.com/



    Insightful Links:


    https://truenativemedia.com/2021-marketing-plan/


    https://www.quillpodcasting.com/blog-posts/podcast-advertising-should-be-paid-strategy


    https://advertise.acast.com/news-and-insights/7-reasons-why-you-need-podcast-advertising-in-your-marketing-mix





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    We appreciate the enthusiasm and support from our community. Currently, we are not accepting new guest interview requests as we focus on our existing lineup. We will announce when we reopen for new submissions. In the meantime, feel free to explore our past episodes and stay tuned for updates on future opportunities.




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  • The Corporate Advancement of Women in Marketing Leadership
    May 15 2025
    In this episode, Dots Oyebolu welcomes Sheena Yap Chan, Founder and Host of The Tao of Self-Confidence, Wall Street Journal bestselling author, keynote speaker, consultant and PR expert.Sheena shares her journey from grappling with cultural invisibility to becoming a global voice for Asian women’s empowerment. She dives into the critical need for representation, confidence-building and collaboration among women in marketing and beyond. Key Takeaways:(02:12) Sheena starts her podcast to spotlight Asian women’s confidence journeys.(03:08) Addressing mental health and trauma is foundational to leadership growth.(08:22) Confidence isn’t about volume — it’s about authenticity.(10:43) Gender bias in Asia and globally still stalls women’s progress.(14:43) Women must overcome jealousy and collaborate more effectively.(16:06) Self-promotion and bold marketing are crucial for growth.(19:01) The “superwoman” myth hinders progress and well-being.(27:37) Diversity must go beyond optics to real inclusion.(33:51) Trust is the foundation of business — without it, credibility, connection and ethical leadership fall apart.Resources Mentioned:Sheena Yap Chanhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/sheenayapchan/The Tao of Self-Confidencehttps://www.linkedin.com/company/the-tao-of-self-confidenceSheena Yap Chan Website and Resourceshttps://sheenayapchan.com/“The Tao of Self-Confidence: A Guide to Moving Beyond Trauma and Awakening the Leader Within” Bookhttps://www.amazon.com/Tao-Self-Confidence-Moving-Beyond-Awakening/dp/1394166575“The Tao of Self-Confidence” Podcasthttps://thetaoofselfconfidence.com/Insightful Links:https://www.linkedin.com/business/marketing/blog/diversity/gender-diversity-in-the-new-world-of-work#:~:text=The%20contrast%20is%20even%20starker,is%2059%25%20to%2041%25.https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesagencycouncil/2023/03/08/12-powerful-ways-women-in-pr-and-marketing-can-claim-their-space-in-leadership/?sh=59640c9f729ahttps://www.linkedin.com/business/marketing/blog/diversity/gender-diversity-in-the-new-world-of-work#:~:text=The%20contrast%20is%20even%20starker,is%2059%25%20to%2041%25.Thanks for listening to the “Marketing Leadership” podcast, brought to you by Listen Network. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation.We appreciate the enthusiasm and support from our community. Currently, we are not accepting new guest interview requests as we focus on our existing lineup. We will announce when we reopen for new submissions. In the meantime, feel free to explore our past episodes and stay tuned for updates on future opportunities.#PodcastMarketing #PerformanceMarketing #BrandMarketing #MarketingStrategy #MarketingIntelligence #GTM #B2BMarketing #D2CMarketing #PodcastAds
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  • Create Solid Content Marketing Operation With Content Intelligence
    May 8 2025

    In this episode, Dots Oyebolu speaks to Cruce Saunders, Founder and Principal at Simple [A], about building scalable content operations using intelligent systems and structured processes.


    Cruce shares how organizations can transform content from a chaotic expense into a strategic asset through clear handoffs, semantic models and composable architectures. Drawing from decades of experience, he outlines how content operations supports omnichannel delivery, reduces duplication and accelerates time-to-market across enterprise teams.


    Key Takeaways:


    (03:27) Generative AI is shaping content creation and delivery, but many companies are still working on foundational content operations.

    (06:29) Content operations oversee the entire content lifecycle, ensuring strategic goals are realized across every customer experience.

    (08:37) Content marketing is only one output of a broader content operations system, alongside support tools like chatbots and documentation.

    (10:12) Large organizations can save millions by centralizing content services and reducing duplicated effort across teams and channels.

    (14:45) Semantic models and intelligent tagging systems make content discoverable and contextually connected across digital experiences.

    (23:16) Content services organizations often pay for themselves within the first year by eliminating hundreds of manual hours per campaign and delivering multimillion-dollar ROI.

    (31:31) Enterprises can achieve ROI in year one by reducing redundant content processes and automating high-friction handoffs.


    Resources mentioned:


    Cruce Saunders

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/cruce/


    Simple [A] | LinkedIn

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/simple-a/


    Simple [A] | Website

    https://simplea.com/


    Insightful Links:


    https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/content-operations


    https://contentmarketinginstitute.com/articles/content-operations-framework/


    https://www.toaststudio.com/en/content-marketing-operations-the-engine-of-your-content-strategy/





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    We appreciate the enthusiasm and support from our community. Currently, we are not accepting new guest interview requests as we focus on our existing lineup. We will announce when we reopen for new submissions. In the meantime, feel free to explore our past episodes and stay tuned for updates on future opportunities.




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