Dave joins Chris Walker for a Refine Labs Expert Series event. Chris is the Founder & Executive Chairman of Refine Labs and Founder & CEO of Passetto. They discuss

• The principles of building a community
• LinkedIn personal vs. company page engagement
• The role of executives in thought leadership content
• How companies are leveraging influencer partnerships
• How to approach LinkedIn organic and grow your audience

Timestamps

• (00:00) - - Intro
• (07:15) - - Importance of Community Engagement
• (11:32) - - Tailoring Marketing Strategies to Target Audiences
• (14:04) - - Depth Over Width in Influencer Strategy
• (16:26) - - Leveraging Influencer Networks for Product Promotion
• (19:36) - - Importance of Laser Focus in Content
• (25:03) - - Organic vs. Paid Content Amplification
• (27:27) - - Leveraging Content for Successful Advertising
• (33:05) - - The 1% Mindset in Achieving Success
• (36:06) - - Creation Strategies: Leveraging Existing Comfort Zones
• (40:06) - - Utilizing Content Variation for Effective Marketing
• (42:59) - - Investing in Employee Long-term Value
• (45:34) - - Validating and Refining Effective Communication Strategies
• (48:57) - Identifying Trending Topics on LinkedIn for Content Creation

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Today’s episode is brought to you by Apollo.io.

If you share a pipeline goal with your sales team, then you care about the deliverability rate of your team’s outbound emails.

No email visibility means no meetings.

This is the “silent nightmare” for marketers. You often don’t even know this is happening.

And the most common cause of it? It’s actually an easy one to fix: you’re not using the right tool.

That’s why 100s of marketers at companies like Mutiny are switching to Apollo.io. Apollo has every tool you need to power your entire outbound and inbound motions (yes that’s right, I said inbound emails too, ask their team about it).

Marketers using Apollo have seen outbound email deliverability jump from 62% to 98% after making the switch. 98%! That means more replies, more meetings, and of course, more pipeline.

Want to see what type of results you can get? Head over to apollo.io/e5 right now and book a meeting with their team to get set up. And as a thank you for your time, you will receive a free annual exit five membership, that's valued at $275.

***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

• They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
• Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
• Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Dave Kline. Dave is currently the owner of SkillScouter and Co-Founder of MGMT Accelerator. He spent 20 years leading teams sized 2 to 200 at Moody's and Bridgewater before starting his own management accelerator.

They talk about leadership and management for people who want to grow their careers and take on a leadership role. This is a useful episode for anyone in B2B marketing who is or wants to be a team leader.

Timestamps

• (00:00) - - Intro
• (06:07) - - The Secret to Success on LinkedIn
• (08:17) - - Building the Right Audience
• (13:10) - - Intentional Engagement for Network Building
• (15:32) - - The Essentials of Effective Leadership
• (17:30) - - The Power of Hiring Right
• (21:37) - - Crafting Clear Objectives and Cultural Fit
• (24:42) - - Strategic Interview Techniques and Networking
• (32:03) - - Simplify Email Campaign Planning
• (33:51) - - Revisiting and Setting Work Expectations
• (37:27) - - Taking Action to Navigate Ambiguity
• (40:49) - - Assessing Resources for Improvement
• (42:56) - - The Skill and Will Framework for Effective Recruitment
• (45:46) - - Tools and Techniques for Effective Leadership Growth
• (50:19) - - Motivating and Developing People in Business

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***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Apollo.io.

If you share a pipeline goal with your sales team, then you care about the deliverability rate of your team’s outbound emails.

No email visibility means no meetings.

This is the “silent nightmare” for marketers. You often don’t even know this is happening.

And the most common cause of it? It’s actually an easy one to fix: you’re not using the right tool.

That’s why 100s of marketers at companies like Mutiny are switching to Apollo.io. Apollo has every tool you need to power your entire outbound and inbound motions (yes that’s right, I said inbound emails too, ask their team about it).

Marketers using Apollo have seen outbound email deliverability jump from 62% to 98% after making the switch. 98%! That means more replies, more meetings, and of course, more pipeline.

Want to see what type of results you can get? Head over to apollo.io/e5 right now and their team will set up a free account for you. And as a thank you for your time, you will receive a free annual Exit Five membership, that's valued at $275.

***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

• They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
• Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
• Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover

• How to start building your portfolio as a new agency owner
• What Sales can do to become a partner to Marketing (and vice versa)
• Whether podcasts are for brand awareness and lead nurturing
• Webinars and whether they need to be live or not
• The future of Exit Five

PS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at hi@exitfive.com, and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)

Timestamps

• (00:00) - - Intro
• (02:50) - - Listener Question
• (05:19) - - How To Get Your First 1 or 2 Clients As An Agency Owner
• (09:58) - - How Sales Can Build a Better Relationship with Marketing
• (11:46) - - What Sales Usually Gets Wrong
• (19:05) - - Emphasizing Live Attendance in Webinars
• (20:59) - - Why Live Webinars are Better
• (22:11) - - Goldenhour
• (24:41) - - The Future of Exit Five

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Apollo.io.

If you share a pipeline goal with your sales team, then you care about the deliverability rate of your team’s outbound emails.

No email visibility means no meetings.

This is the “silent nightmare” for marketers. You often don’t even know this is happening.

And the most common cause of it? It’s actually an easy one to fix: you’re not using the right tool.

That’s why 100s of marketers at companies like Mutiny are switching to Apollo.io. Apollo has every tool you need to power your entire outbound and inbound motions (yes that’s right, I said inbound emails too, ask their team about it).

Marketers using Apollo have seen outbound email deliverability jump from 62% to 98% after making the switch. 98%! That means more replies, more meetings, and of course, more pipeline.

Want to see what type of results you can get? Head over to apollo.io/e5 right now and their team will set up a free account for you. And as a thank you for your time, you will receive a free annual Exit Five membership, that's valued at $275.

***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

• They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
• Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
• Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Jessica Hreha. Jessica is the Head of Marketing AI Strategy & Transformation at Jasper. Previously, she was the Head of Global Integrated Campaigns & Content Strategy and Founder of VMware Marketing AI Council at VMware. They discuss everything AI in B2B Marketing, such as

• How to use AI to ideate and refine your creation process
• Use cases for AI beyond copywriting
• Why you need dedicated in-house AI champions
• What Jasper is doing to improve customer engagement with AI

Timestamps

• (00:00) - - AI Guidelines and Ethical Adoption
• (06:49) - - Confronting Resistance to AI in Content Creation
• (09:07) - - Time and productivity savings
• (12:38) - - Content Production 101: Outlining and Customization
• (17:43) - - Unlocking Decision-Making Potential with AI
• (20:00) - - Measuring Productivity and Savings
• (26:56) - - Transitioning Careers: From Content Marketing to AI Program Direction
• (30:07) - - Challenges of Implementing AI in Organizations
• (33:01) - - Standardizing and structuring delivery plans
• (36:34) - - Broadening the Role of AI in Marketing Operations
• (38:45) - - Enhancing Marketing Efficiency Through AI
• (41:14) - - Exploring AI's Role in Negotiation
• (44:42) - - Closing Remarks and Invitation for Future Collaboration

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Apollo.io.

If you share a pipeline goal with your sales team, then you care about the deliverability rate of your team’s outbound emails.

No email visibility means no meetings.

This is the “silent nightmare” for marketers. You often don’t even know this is happening.

And the most common cause of it? It’s actually an easy one to fix: you’re not using the right tool.

That’s why 100s of marketers at companies like Mutiny are switching to Apollo.io. Apollo has every tool you need to power your entire outbound and inbound motions (yes that’s right, I said inbound emails too, ask their team about it).

Marketers using Apollo have seen outbound email deliverability jump from 62% to 98% after making the switch. 98%! That means more replies, more meetings, and of course, more pipeline.

Want to see what type of results you can get? Head over to apollo.io/e5 right now and their team will set up a free account for you. And as a thank you for your time, you will receive a free annual Exit Five membership, that's valued at $275.

***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

• They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
• Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
• Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave Kellogg is a former CEO and CMO with operational experience across companies from $0 to $1B+. He served as GM/SVP of Service Cloud for Salesforce, CEO of MarkLogic, and SVP of Marketing at SAP / Business Objects. Today, he is principal at Dave Kellogg Consulting, EIR at Balderton Capital, and author of the popular SaaS blog Kellblog (www.kellblog.com). He has also served as an independent director across 10 startup boards and has a unique perspective on what top-performing SaaS companies do and what role the CMO should play.

We talk about:

- Being a great partner to sales and why it is marketing’s job to make sales easier
- Mastering the art of becoming the dispassionate analyst, presenting the facts
- Being a partner to the CEO
- Dave's thoughts on the importance of benchmarks, his POV on category creation, lead gen vs. demand gen, ChatGPT, and more.

Timestamps

• (00:00) - Introduction
• (06:30) - Dave Kellogg's Journey
• (11:30) - Insights on Blogging and Career
• (16:30) - What Makes a Great CMO
• (21:30) - Aligning Sales and Marketing
• (29:09) - Leveraging Data and Market Research
• (34:09) - The Role of Brand and Category Creation
• (39:09) - The Future of AI in Marketing
• (44:09) - Understanding SaaS Metrics
• (49:09) - Closing Remarks

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
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Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Apollo.io.

If you share a pipeline goal with your sales team, then you care about the deliverability rate of your team’s outbound emails.

No email visibility means no meetings.

This is the “silent nightmare” for marketers. You often don’t even know this is happening.

And the most common cause of it? It’s actually an easy one to fix: you’re not using the right tool.

That’s why 100s of marketers at companies like Mutiny are switching to Apollo.io. Apollo has every tool you need to power your entire outbound and inbound motions (yes that’s right, I said inbound emails too, ask their team about it).

Marketers using Apollo have seen outbound email deliverability jump from 62% to 98% after making the switch. 98%! That means more replies, more meetings, and of course, more pipeline.

Want to see what type of results you can get? Head over to apollo.io/e5 right now and their team will set up a free account for you. And as a thank you for your time, you will receive a free annual Exit Five membership, that's valued at $275.

***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

• They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
• Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
• Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Daniel Cmejla, VP of Community at Apollo.io. Before Apollo, Daniel was the VP of Brand and Community at Chili Piper. In this episode, they discuss

• How to use LinkedIn to build community
• The difference between building community vs. building ‘a’ community
• Using internal team members LinkedIn profiles to lift the companies brand
• Community building and how to measure the impact on the bottom line

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Apollo.io.

If you share a pipeline goal with your sales team, then you care about the deliverability rate of your team’s outbound emails.

No email visibility means no meetings.

This is the “silent nightmare” for marketers. You often don’t even know this is happening.

And the most common cause of it? It’s actually an easy one to fix: you’re not using the right tool.

That’s why 100s of marketers at companies like Mutiny are switching to Apollo.io. Apollo has every tool you need to power your entire outbound and inbound motions (yes that’s right, I said inbound emails too, ask their team about it).

Marketers using Apollo have seen outbound email deliverability jump from 62% to 98% after making the switch. 98%! That means more replies, more meetings, and of course, more pipeline.

Want to see what type of results you can get? Head over to apollo.io/e5 right now and book a meeting with their team to get set up. And as a thank you for your time, you will receive a free annual exit five membership, that's valued at $275.

***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

• They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
• Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
• Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover

• How 'edgy' B2B brands can get with their social media pages (and if they should)
• Advice for first-time marketing leaders
• Dave's advice for product launches
• Why marketing fundamentals are key to your marketing strategy

PS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at hi@exitfive.com, and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)

Timestamps

• (00:00) - - How Edgy Can B2B Social Media Be?
• (08:05) - - Advice for First-Time Marketing Leaders
• (09:59) - - Focusing on Company Goals One Quarter at a Time
• (11:04) - - Impactful Goals and Building Momentum
• (15:27) - - Driving Results Through Strategic Positioning and Creative Initiatives
• (19:35) - - Positioning Your Product and Company
• (22:42) - - Leveraging Strategic Narratives for Success
• (23:41) - - Product Launches

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Apollo.io.

If you share a pipeline goal with your sales team, then you care about the deliverability rate of your team’s outbound emails.

No email visibility means no meetings.

This is the “silent nightmare” for marketers. You often don’t even know this is happening.

And the most common cause of it? It’s actually an easy one to fix: you’re not using the right tool.

That’s why 100s of marketers at companies like Mutiny are switching to Apollo.io. Apollo has every tool you need to power your entire outbound and inbound motions (yes that’s right, I said inbound emails too, ask their team about it).

Marketers using Apollo have seen outbound email deliverability jump from 62% to 98% after making the switch. 98%! That means more replies, more meetings, and of course, more pipeline.

Want to see what type of results you can get? Head over to apollo.io/e5 right now and their team will set up a free account for you. And as a thank you for your time, you will receive a free annual Exit Five membership, that's valued at $275.

***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

• They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
• Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
• Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Talia Wolf, CEO and Founder of Getuplift. Talia was recently listed as one of the most influential experts in conversion optimization. She’s trained companies all over the world and has taught on stages such as Google, MozCon, CTAconf, Search Love, and many more.

They discuss things like

• Selling with emotional benefits over feature lists
• How to use the stages of awareness to lead customers through the conversion funnel
• How to do research that informs your conversion strategy
• Using AI to create content that'll resonate with website visitors

Timestamps

• (00:00) - - The Pitfalls of Traditional Agencies
• (08:01) - - Building Successful Careers
• (11:39) - - The Importance of Understanding Emotion in Digital Conversion Optimization
• (16:15) - - The Science Behind Emotions
• (20:21) - - Messaging tips
• (23:36) - - Uncovering Emotions through Customer Interviews and Surveys
• (27:41) - - Research and Specific Questions in Optimization
• (31:15) - - The Importance of User Awareness in Conversion
• (36:07) - - Guiding the Buyer's Journey: Crafting Purposeful Homepages for Multi-Stage Awareness
• (40:06) - - Convincing Customers in 3 Seconds
• (41:53) - - Navigation and Client Segmentation
• (46:27) - - Efficiency and Inspiration with ChatGPT
• (47:46) - - The Core of Conversion Journeys

Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.com
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
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Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Apollo.io.

If you share a pipeline goal with your sales team, then you care about the deliverability rate of your team’s outbound emails.

No email visibility means no meetings.

This is the “silent nightmare” for marketers. You often don’t even know this is happening.

And the most common cause of it? It’s actually an easy one to fix: you’re not using the right tool.

That’s why 100s of marketers at companies like Mutiny are switching to Apollo.io. Apollo has every tool you need to power your entire outbound and inbound motions (yes that’s right, I said inbound emails too, ask their team about it).

Marketers using Apollo have seen outbound email deliverability jump from 62% to 98% after making the switch. 98%! That means more replies, more meetings, and of course, more pipeline.

Want to see what type of results you can get? Head over to apollo.io/e5 right now and their team will set up a free account for you. And as a thank you for your time, you will receive a free annual Exit Five membership, that's valued at $275.

***

Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

• They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
• Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.
• Visit hatch.fm to learn more