Sue Unerman is the Chief Transformation Officer of EssenceMediacomX. And having spent 34 years with Mediacom in its various incarnations, it’s fair to say that ‘transformation’ is a subject that Sue knows a thing or two about.

Unpacking her personal journey across five decades (sorry, Sue!), this far-reaching conversation explores how to build an agency career amidst constant change and increasing uncertainty.

From playing to your strengths, to the impact of having great bosses, Sue shares her typically thoughtful observations on how to thrive as an introvert, particularly if your skills don’t conform to the norms.

We also address the resilience of the patriarchy, in particular how gender influences career progression and why men progress faster than equally capable women.

Sue also advocates strongly for fairness and straight talking, as well as how agency leaders can foster a sense of belonging - especially for young talent as they make their way in the industry.

HIGHLIGHTS

[02.10] Sue’s career journey.

[04.48] The importance of collaboration.

[08.22] What it takes to play to your strengths.

[12.30] The two ways of building a career in agencies.

[16.11] Different approaches for introverts and extroverts.

[20.34] The value of fairness and straight talking.

[23.50] Levelling the playing field for women in agencies.

[30.21] Glass-slipper syndrome and what makes a ‘job’ a job.

GUEST SOCIALS:

LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/sue-unerman-7945058/

Twitter - https://twitter.com/SueU

Sue’s books - https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Sue-Unerman/author/B007STF5DS

Sue's blog - sueunerman.com

HOST SOCIALS:

Linkedin - www.linkedin.com/in/robinbonn

Twitter - twitter.com/robonn

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Our guest today is the wonderful Harjot Singh - Global Chief Strategy Officer at McCann & McCann Worldgroup. This is a rich and personal conversation about the impact of people being different in our industry.

Harjot has a real way with words and he shares some lovely thoughts, not least on the critical difference between discipline and dogma when it comes to great work. He also beautifully captures what he calls the ‘dance’ that occurs between agencies and their clients as we strike a balance between offering certainty and possibility.

Harjot also speaks candidly about there not being a playbook to follow as he progressed through the ranks. And his perspective on imposter syndrome is particularly powerful; using his own doubts as a prompt to search for more information and greater insight.

I really love the groundedness that Harjot brings to the conversation. If you’re looking for an example of how to stay present, really listen and offer genuine answers, there’s a lot to learn here. He talks the talk on being yourself and he certainly walks the walk too.

HIGHLIGHTS:

[05.38] Balancing certainty and possibility.

[07.36] The art of persuasion and positive outcomes.

[12.13] Why observation and attention is so important.

[19.00] Listening to your mind and processing what you hear.

[24.22] Why good people make good leaders.

[30.07] You can't do different if you're not different.

[34.32] Advice for agency leaders.

GUEST SOCIALS:

LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/harjot-singh-30a33b2/

Twitter - https://twitter.com/iamharjsingh

HOST SOCIALS:

Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robinbonn/

Twitter - https://twitter.com/robonn

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This episode features Katie Lee - former CEO of Lucky Generals and now Chief Operating Officer of Wavemaker, the WPP media agency. Together, we explore the differences between healthy and unhealthy growth.

As a case in point, Katie shares her experience of how agencies often confuse growth with strategy, which in turn leads to unhelpful - and unhealthy - places. So if you recognise her definition of the ‘danger zone’ that this creates, then consider her wisdom a wake-up call.

We also delve deeper into the importance of role modelling and how that enables future leaders to feel empowered. And if you’ve lost your new-business mojo, Katie shares her view on how to get it back.

Finally, this being The Immortal Life of Agencies, no episode would be complete without a clear view on how to make our industry a more joyful place to be.

HIGHLIGHTS:

[04.29] The confusion of growth and strategy.

[07.57] What matters in maintaining client relationships.

[12.35] What prevents future leaders from feeling empowered.

[15.57] Ways to regain your new-business mojo.

[20.44] Pitching to different types of audiences.

[23.33] How growth changes when you’re the CEO.

[26.57] Two different layers of feedback.

[30.17] The culture-building power of new-business.

GUEST SOCIALS:

LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/katie-lee-37185321/

HOST SOCIALS:

Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robinbonn/

Twitter - https://twitter.com/robonn

MORE ABOUT CO:DEFINERY:

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